Britian: Firearms cheap, easy to get and on a street near you

[Tez3]

Yes we've always had gangs but now they are emulating the American gangs which if it wasn't so serious would be hilarious. You have youths wandering around our cities in hoodies and jeans way past their backsides showing their underwear talking like Americans 'hard men' calling their girlfreinds 'hos' and each other 'dude' only in British accents ranging from Yorkshire to Birmingham (the Brum accent possibly the worse s it's a funny accant anyway) to broad Scots. Whats quite scary in California comes over as ridiculous in Bradford.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4YH0LUt8R2k

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4vD7Q22j97A&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9OQnpxlQhcA&feature=related

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcetr1g2vRA&feature=related

And this one coz i like it lol!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pMx5Z8Q8krg&feature=related

 

[Sukerkin]

A welfare state is NOT the answer to crime.....in the long run it's a recipe for the collapse of civilization.

One need not just look at Rome to figure out what happens when the government becomes all about providing the people bread and circus.

It hasn't been going long enough to judge yet, Mac, so I'm not going to dispute your perfectly valid supposition.

The 'bread and circus's' policy, however, was not done as some form of ancient welfare state ideal. It was a pragmatic poitical decision to maintain social control; keeping the masses from poking their noses too far into what their 'betters' were doing. More like the media of today than the Social Services.

 

[Deaf Smith]

Yes we've always had gangs but now they are emulating the American gangs which if it wasn't so serious would be hilarious. You have youths wandering around our cities in hoodies and jeans way past their backsides showing their underwear talking like Americans 'hard men' calling their girlfreinds 'hos' and each other 'dude' only in British accents ranging from Yorkshire to Birmingham (the Brum accent possibly the worse s it's a funny accant anyway) to broad Scots. Whats quite scary in California comes over as ridiculous in Bradford.

Tez3,

That always kills me when I see them with their coat hung down behind their back an their pants almost past their hips. Sad they call their own women such names. I'd never call the people I know such. I have to much respect for them.

What was fun was once in San Antonio about 5 of them passed my wife and I at the river walk. It was a tight place and we were all quite close to each other. They looked tough as for as facial features but I could see their build was not all that tough.

When we passes I just looked right in their eyes and gave them a nod (that is I acknowledged their presence.) No tough look on my face but no scared one either. They nodded back and we all passed each other.

I have found that to be the best way to handle them. Acknowledge their presence but don't send the wrong signals (one way or another.)

Oh, and it helped I had a Smith & Wesson 64 2 inch .38 on me at the time and the skill to use it well. It gave a confidence that could not be faked.

Deaf

 

[sgtmac_46]

It hasn't been going long enough to judge yet, Mac, so I'm not going to dispute your perfectly valid supposition.

The 'bread and circus's' policy, however, was not done as some form of ancient welfare state ideal. It was a pragmatic poitical decision to maintain social control; keeping the masses from poking their noses too far into what their 'betters' were doing. More like the media of today than the Social Services.

It's the same thing, my friend. Do you really think that the motives of governments have become more pure in 2,000 years?

'Welfare' is nothing more than Bread and Circus....providing the masses with enough to keep them fat and entertained and not really too interested in what is going on.

The ULTIMATE result of welfare is a whole CIVILIZATION of parasites....who then lose interest in even running civilization, in the sacrifice it takes to defend civilization. It's what happened to Rome, when the Roman's themselves couldn't be bothered to fill the ranks of the legions that defended the empire....so that barbarians were recruited in to the legions to fill the ranks. Ultimately those barbarians began to wonder why they were even serving Rome and began making demands of it, and finally turned against Rome!

History is cyclical, civilizations are cyclical. We've seen this all before.



But then men have become 'better' in 2,000 years.

 

[sgtmac_46]

Yes we've always had gangs but now they are emulating the American gangs which if it wasn't so serious would be hilarious. You have youths wandering around our cities in hoodies and jeans way past their backsides showing their underwear talking like Americans 'hard men' calling their girlfreinds 'hos' and each other 'dude' only in British accents ranging from Yorkshire to Birmingham (the Brum accent possibly the worse s it's a funny accant anyway) to broad Scots. Whats quite scary in California comes over as ridiculous in Bradford.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4YH0LUt8R2k

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4vD7Q22j97A&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9OQnpxlQhcA&feature=related

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcetr1g2vRA&feature=related

And this one coz i like it lol!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pMx5Z8Q8krg&feature=related

Oh and you're absolutely right....that 'gang culture' is taken directly from ours. The baggie pants look of our gang culture is derived from prison culture where pants are issued in whole sizes and belts are allowed. The young toughs took that on as a status symbol from the older criminals....a sign that they've been to prison.

Our pop culture has endorsed and propagated that gang culture under the guise of 'celebrating diversity'.....missing the point that diversity doesn't mean you have to endorse a cultures seedier sides wholesale.

 

[Tez3]

We do have some home grown ones though, the 'chavs', oh how I hate them!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6ScmLo9bPqk&feature=related

 

[Sukerkin]

I just watched that video and what sruck me more than anything was the sheer stupidity of the lad getting arrested. What did he think? That if he struggled enough they'd just get bored and let him go?!

I have to ask what a camera was doing there tho'? Was it a training video and hence 'acted' or did it just happen to happen whilst a training video was being shot?

 

[Tez3]

I just watched that video and what sruck me more than anything was the sheer stupidity of the lad getting arrested. What did he think? That if he struggled enough they'd just get bored and let him go?!

I have to ask what a camera was doing there tho'? Was it a training video and hence 'acted' or did it just happen to happen whilst a training video was being shot?

It was on one of those TV programmes that we have so many of the police at work. Trying to think of the name but it eludes me.