Best side kick I have seen on Youtube

[JowGaWolf]

I think I'm too functional for this discussion.
A great side kick is one that doesn't get grabbed and breaks a few ribs before it returns
A good side kick is one that doesn't get grabbed but lands solid
A bad side kick is one that puts you in more trouble than you were in before the side kick.

If just looking at the mechanics
A great side kick is one that works with the body and is controlled
A good side kick is one that works with the body but lacks control
A bad side kick where the mechanics cause injury and causes unnecessary damage to you.

These should be fairly universal regardless of system, The variation of what system uses what is going to run into issues as there are only a few ways that one can physically do a side kick without causing unnecessary injury. Because of this, it's only natural that some kicks are going to be very similar if not identical. How many Martial Arts systems have side kicks? There's bound to be replication.

 

[wab25]

The first reaction was my body actually preparing to grab the leg. My muscles literally twitched because of how the kick doesn't return to chamber. It drops at the end which makes it perfect for catching that leg. I've always been taught to never fall into a kick like that.

There are two types of yoko geri, kekomi and keagi. He actually does both. The first one he does is keagi, or the snap kick version. This first kick, he does return to chamber. (he is showing the control in the video... normally it would be done faster). The second kick is the kekomi version. This is a thrust side kick. The idea is that you kick through your opponent and drive him back... thus you step forward after the kick, in order to follow up.

 

[Dirty Dog]

My rating was art independent

You misspelled "ignorant". Hope this helps.

 

[Acronym]

There are two types of yoko geri, kekomi and keagi. He actually does both. The first one he does is keagi, or the snap kick version. This first kick, he does return to chamber. (he is showing the control in the video... normally it would be done faster). The second kick is the kekomi version. This is a thrust side kick. The idea is that you kick through your opponent and drive him back... thus you step forward after the kick, in order to follow up.

Both are kekomi. The keagi they lean forward, or rather upright.

 

[Acronym]

You misspelled "ignorant". Hope this helps.

I know more about than Shotokan than you, clearly.

 

[JowGaWolf]

There are two types of yoko geri, kekomi and keagi. He actually does both. The first one he does is keagi, or the snap kick version. This first kick, he does return to chamber. (he is showing the control in the video... normally it would be done faster). The second kick is the kekomi version. This is a thrust side kick. The idea is that you kick through your opponent and drive him back... thus you step forward after the kick, in order to follow up.

All of my kicks thrust with the exception of some of my front kicks. For me the thrust part in my side kick comes from body movement. I went back to the vide and saw that he doesn't move forward when doing the side kick.

Definitely difference kicking theories going on. But thanks for the info on the side kick and how it's done in that system. I learned something new.

 

[Acronym]

All of my kicks thrust with the exception of some of my front kicks. For me the thrust part in my side kick comes from body movement. I went back to the vide and saw that he doesn't move forward when doing the side kick.

Definitely difference kicking theories going on. But thanks for the info on the side kick and how it's done in that system. I learned something new.

The keagi in shotokan is garbage. it has no power and the body mechanics is stupid.

 

[skribs]

I know more about than Shotokan than you, clearly.

What don't you think you know more than anyone else about?

You "know" this is a Shotokan kick...that's the best kick ever...that has serious flaws. You posted this on the TKD page instead of the Shotokan page. Somehow you've managed to take a massive dump on both Taekwondo and Karate in the process.

 

[Acronym]

Somehow you've managed to take a massive dump on both Taekwondo and Karate in the process.

Lol. It's a fact that TaeKwonDo schools in most cases place a greater emphasis on proper hip mechanics for kicking, and less time on punching in general.

So the two arts compliment each other very well, actually. It's kinda like judo and BJJ in that regard.

 

[Acronym]

I think I'm too functional for this discussion.
A great side kick is one that doesn't get grabbed and breaks a few ribs before it returns
A good side kick is one that doesn't get grabbed but lands solid
A bad side kick is one that puts you in more trouble than you were in before the side kick.

If just looking at the mechanics
A great side kick is one that works with the body and is controlled
A good side kick is one that works with the body but lacks control
A bad side kick where the mechanics cause injury and causes unnecessary damage to you.

These should be fairly universal regardless of system, The variation of what system uses what is going to run into issues as there are only a few ways that one can physically do a side kick without causing unnecessary injury. Because of this, it's only natural that some kicks are going to be very similar if not identical. How many Martial Arts systems have side kicks? There's bound to be replication.

He is not sparring

 

[Acronym]

What don't you think you know more than anyone else about?
.

Because I have talked to chief instructors like Dirty Dog and they have this autistic expertise about their own art and don't know more than a layperson about the others, often even parent arts.

And part of autism is a refusal to look beyond ones own horizon, and that's a chief instructor for you...

 

[Acronym]

Even KKW instructors don't jack you know what about ITF...And vice versa

 

[Acronym]

Cool. So is your purpose in posting it trying to find out whether he's an outlier, or a TKD guy in disguise/former TKD guy?

I missed this one. No but I posted it here because w are are the side kick specialists normally but credit where credit is due. He is Shotokan (at least the time of the footage) and he earned my respect

 

[Earl Weiss]

And it's not Taekwondo!

10/10

How does this "Side Kick" differ from the "Taekwondo" Sidekick. ? Detailed explanation please.

 

[Acronym]

How does this "Side Kick" differ from the "Taekwondo" Sidekick. ? Detailed explanation please.

It doesn't.. Most people don't do it this well though in Shotokan

 

[Acronym]

And it was a shotokan guy doing it. So thats it wasnt TKD

 

[dvcochran]

Shotokan kicks are basically the same as (kukkiwon) TKD kicks a lot of the time, from what I can tell.
Edit: Technically reverse the order I guess. TKD kicks are basically the same as shotokan kicks.

Especially in traditional TKD. The newer more competition focused WT kicks are somewhat different but the origination is the same.
I fully agree the origin of the kick(s) is Japan, Okinawa or possibly China. So yes, the video could easily be a Shotokan practitioner.

 

[Acronym]

Here's just a brief sample.

So not the same in practise. You don't learn Karate for the kicks.

 

[dvcochran]

Lots of arts do side kicks, and at this point they've pretty much all influenced each other enough that you're not going to be able to tell origins.
And no, it's not a 10.

Not quite a 10, but it is pretty close. Lacking some rotation IMHO.
The kick and hard step forward reminds me of a Shotokan school I worked out at with some friends back in the day. They really emphasized the hard step to show you put full power into the kick.

 

[dvcochran]

But the actual mechanics. If you looked in a handbook for each of them, you would see the same kicks, and it just comes down to how well an individual a:is taught it and b: practices.

Keep reeling him in brother!