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Yeah, that's always been something that's been confusing to me. If you're here illegally, yes, you're illegal. OTOH, IMHO, if your parents are here illegally, and they have you here, how can you be a citizen? Yeah, I know, you were born here, but I still can't wrap my head around that, and frankly, I don't think it makes sense. IMO, you're illegal too.
As for the rest of your post....yes, I agree.
Our outspoken Gov. Brewer has stated that the young people (foreign born who were brought here illegally by their parents) who apply for and receive federal "deferred status" and temporarily receive legal residency and work visas under President Obama's recent executive order, will not be allowed to apply for and get driver's licenses, or any other Arizona state benefitpreviously available to others with the same "deferred" status granted for other reasons.
Her reasoning behind denying these benefits and services to this particular group is that she doesn't recognize the President's use of an executive order as legal and binding. Her spokesman referred to the executive order as "illegal". On the other hand, immigrant advocacy groups insist that it is the Governor's actions that are blatantly illegal and an attempt to pander to the most extreme elements of the anti-immigrant crowd in this election year. Naturally, they promise to take the matter to the courts if she doesn't back down.
Gov. Brewer reminds me more and more of governors like Lester Maddox or Orval Faubus or George Wallace. The issues and the actio:ns they took aren't exactly the same, but the sentiment seems to be. Maddox, Faubus and Wallace all pandered to people whose views were extreme, un-American, or even contrary to federal law ... all under the guise of "states rights". I can't say whether Brewer is violating any law or federal directive, but I can see that she has no intent of honoring the spirit of it.
As was the case with those Southern governors, maybe it's time the federal government weighed in on the issue of a "national" driver's license. That might solve a lot of problems. Might create some, too, but these obstructionist governors need to be put in check.
Gov. Brewer reminds me more and more of governors like Lester Maddox or Orval Faubus or George Wallace. The issues and the actions they took aren't exactly the same, but the sentiment seems to be. Maddox, Faubus and Wallace all pandered to people whose views were extreme, un-American, or even contrary to federal law ... all under the guise of "states rights". I can't say whether Brewer is violating any law or federal directive, but I can see that she has no intent of honoring the spirit of it.
As was the case with those Southern governors, maybe it's time the federal government weighed in on the issue of a "national" driver's license. That might solve a lot of problems. Might create some, too, but these obstructionist governors need to be put in check.
The issues and the actions they took aren't exactly the same
Or if you don't like it don't go to AZ.
The last thing we need is a federal drivers license
... which ends up being a de facto endorsement of exclusionary policy.
Again, it wouldn't be without its problems. But at least it wouldn't be left up to obstructionist, pandering governors to exclude people from a privilege that the federal government says to include.
If the fed said that 9mm pistols were legal to own, but Gov. Jerry Brown of California said "no", do we just let California have its way?
Lots of things are illegal in CA that are legal in other states, .50 caliber rifles (which have never been used in any crime) just to name one...If the fed said that 9mm pistols were legal to own, but Gov. Jerry Brown of California said "no", do we just let California have its way?
I'm sure if all the illegals currently in Arizona left, and no new illegals came to replace them, the people of Arizona would be fine with that... which ends up being a de facto endorsement of exclusionary policy.
I'm sure if all the illegals currently in Arizona left, and no new illegals came to replace them, the people of Arizona would be fine with that
I'm sure if all the illegals currently in Arizona left, and no new illegals came to replace them, the people of Arizona would be fine with that
Actually a lot of us Arizonans, including a lot of conservative Republican businessmen, would regret it if that happened "for reals". The local economy would take a huge hit. Like most border states, Arizona has always benefited from a limited number of illegals, in agricultural work, hard manual labor and the service industries, especially hotels and restaurants.
Everybody keeps saying that they have "no objection to people coming here legally." So why are they against any reform that might make it possible for folks to legalize their status? After all, that's what the "Dream Act" is an attempt to do.
Everybody keeps saying that they have "no objection to people coming here legally." So why are they against any reform that might make it possible for folks to legalize their status?
I actually support reform and making it easier and more affordable to earn citizenship... My only issue with this particular act, which I asked about above but no one would answer for me, is how do you justify calling anyone who came here under 31 years old a child? 18 I can see. 31? No ****ing way... its a sham.
It is an obvious dichotomy, isn't it.