Another wake up for Chinese Martial Arts

[drop bear]

the same reason I know that people who have learnt to ride a bike are better at ridding a bike than those who haven't
that and the fact they bother to teach police officers to disarm people. If it wern't so,they would say, no we won't bother teaching you how to disarm a knife man, just wing it

Because you can ride bikes and see people riding bikes. You can make an assesment on what it takes to be a good bike rider.

You cant see what system makes people better at handling weapons.

And the poilice bit is silly. I train with three police officers who do BJJ.

 

[jobo]

@jobo

BJJ also has their disarms and sd, same as any other style. Mma isn't BJJ, and I'm not a BJJ guy, nor is anyone in this thread..so you continually bringing it up isn't furthering your case...whatever that is.

well they don't do knife disarms in mma either.
I though mma was just bjj with a few punches thrown in. Same rubbish different name

 

[drop bear]

well they don't do knife disarms in mma either.
I though mma was just bjj with a few punches thrown in. Same rubbish different name

missed this one then.

 

[jobo]

Because you can ride bikes and see people riding bikes. You can make an assesment on what it takes to be a good bike rider.

You cant see what system makes people better at handling weapons.

And the poilice bit is silly. I train with three police officers who do BJJ.

Because you can ride bikes and see people riding bikes. You can make an assesment on what it takes to be a good bike rider.

You cant see what system makes people better at handling weapons.

And the poilice bit is silly. I train with three police officers who do BJJ.

yes and those officers will all have had specific training in disarming. That makes them better at,eer disarming than your average bjj bod

 

[Flying Crane]

It's at this point where I wish I knew how the different armed forces around the world trained. I know for example that some train in Krav Maga but I'm guessing there is a big difference between the Krav Maga that is taught to civilians and that which is taught to the armed forces.

I believe that typical armed forces hand-to-hand training, for a variety of legitimate reasons, is simple and fundamental, and not given a lot of time or energy.

Just because something is taught to some armed forces, is not a reason to assume it is especially effective or sophisticated. Actually, it is often the opposite.

Is that what you were getting at?

 

[jobo]

missed this one then.

still looked like ground and pound to me

 

[Martial D]

yes your at a,disadvantage, that why people use weapons to give them an edge. And those who train in weapons disarm are at less of a disadvantage than those who don't

I would say the opposite. If you have confidence in your 'knife drills' when someone tries to stab you, you are far more likely to see the inside of an ER than someone who holds no such(dangerous) belief.

 

[jobo]

I would say the opposite. If you have confidence in your 'knife drills' when someone tries to stab you, you are far more likely to see the inside of an ER than someone who holds no such(dangerous) belief.

that would only be true if my confidence was misplaced. I'm only fighting a knife man if I have no,choice, unless I'm armed, so my confidence has little to do with it
someone pulled a BIG Knife on me once during a road rage incident, I backed away to my bike and came back with a claw hammer. He didn't think that a fair fight and jumped in his car and shot off

 

[Martial D]

that would only be true if my confidence was misplaced.

I hope, sincerely, that nobody reading this takes you seriously and adopts these sorts of beliefs and gets maimed or killed as a result.

We are done here, and onto ignore you go.

 

[jobo]

I hope, sincerely, that nobody reading this takes you seriously and adopts these sorts of beliefs and gets maimed or killed as a result.

We are done here, and onto ignore you go.

what beliefs, that mma is rubbish or that getting weapons training is a good idea

 

[drop bear]

yes and those officers will all have had specific training in disarming. That makes them better at,eer disarming than your average bjj bod

No your argument was. If police do it it must be relevant. Or they wouldn't do it.

An argument for knife disarms would have to stand on its own merits.

 

[jobo]

No your argument was. If police do it it must be relevant. Or they wouldn't do it.

An argument for knife disarms would have to stand on its own merits.

your making rules up,

 

[drop bear]

your making rules up,

No i think that is an actual rule.

 

[jobo]

No i think that is an actual rule.

and where is this rule written?

 

[drop bear]

and where is this rule written?

here is one.
Argument: The Basics

 

[Xue Sheng]

 

[jobo]

here is one.
Argument: The Basics

those are American rules, we are debating under world rules

 

[drop bear]

those are American rules, we are debating under world rules

 

[JowGaWolf]

I don't know what triggered this post but man, that picture is a perfect representation of how someone feels when something really stupid was said. The anguish. lol

 

[Headhunter]

@jobo

BJJ also has their disarms and sd, same as any other style. Mma isn't BJJ, and I'm not a BJJ guy, nor is anyone in this thread..so you continually bringing it up isn't furthering your case...whatever that is.

Wrong there aren't any disarms in bjj. Yes there's self defence aspects but there's no weapons involved at all.