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To do what? Visit the jobless in your area and coach them on how to set up their own small business?Two Chicks at the same time.
My sentiments would mirror your own.My faith teaches me "to do these things in secret, and the Father rewards openly." (or something like that)... besides nobody else's business what I do with the money that is given to me unless they give it to me for a specific purpose.
Just as there is always someone with more than little ol' you, there is always someone with less. I think we learn to rationalise our position on the scale. Unfortunately I think for most of us, we rationalise it down to never having enough and always wanting more.Money has usually meant power. Power is neither good nor bad. But enough money gives you enough power to choose. That's why I chose to keep just enough to get myself without worry of deep debt and donate what is left. Don't want that much power, don't need it and ain't gonna be able to KEEP it no how because there'll always be somebody with more than little ole' me. Kinda depressing huh? To me it's accepting at the moment how things are. In the mean time I get a nice feeling with the idea of being able to help others.
Tic tacs, chewing gum and Chiclets could very well be set to this songOrange Tic tacs, Chewing gum and Chiclets....Lots of orange tic tacs, chewing gum and chiclets or possibly corner the Pez market
An individual spending his money on cars or other luxuries does so because he wishes to and at his expense. These needy kids, hospitals that seem to be permanently on fire, etc, didn't have the money in the first place and have no claim to it at all. Another person's need does not become my burden. If the world worked liek that we would all be forced to pay alms to those a step or two lower on the financial ladder, because they want that money.
Why is it moral to serve the happiness of others, but not your own? If enjoyment is a value, why is it moral when experienced by others, but immoral when experienced by you? If the sensation of eating a cake is a value, why is it an immoral indulgence in your stomach, but a moral goal for you to achieve in the stomach of others? Why is it immoral for you to desire, but moral for others to do so? Why is it immoral to produce a value and keep it, but moral to give it away? And if it is not moral for you to keep a value, why is it moral for others to accept it? If you are selfless and virtuous when you give it, are they not selfish and vicious when they take it? Does virtue consist of serving vice? Is the moral purpose of those who are good, self-immolation for the sake of those who are evil?
Whatever the value involved, it is your lack of it that gives you a claim upon those who dont lack it. It is your need that gives you a claim to rewards. If you are able to satisfy your need, your ability annuls your right to satisfy it. But a need you are unable to satisfy gives you first right to the lives of mankind. - Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
I appreciate your point of view completely. Personally I think it actually is moral to serve the happiness of others because that is ultimately in the greater good for us all. Were you or your family to suffer destitution after some financial incident or hardship perhaps you would welcome the assistance of others who stood to gain nothing from so doing, no? Enjoyment of our own lives is part of any accepted self-interest theory of living. It is of course your right to accumulate wealth and use it as you see fit and yet I do not think it should be at the expense of others. That is why I think $100M is obscene in terms of equitability when put in the hands of one individual who could never possibly justify a need for it. Humanity needs altruists. I simply wish the each of us did not rely upon others to be those altruists.
I very much like this idea. You have not stumbled upon any Einstein-defying faster than light particles up there? Now that really *would* be something. That reminds me... I am late for work!THe cost of actually bringing a full scale production transmutation facility on line could reach billions, but a proof-of-principle prototype could be done for $100 million-and LANSCE is the only facility in the world where a prototype could be accomplished. It hasn't happened already because no one thinks it's important enough-we're already doing transmutation at LANSCE for medical isotopes. There are hazards and problems inherent in the process that would have to be addressed.
It wasn't my idea, but it's a damn good one.
I agree wholeheartedly. I think being so "stuff" orientated can be a burden to happiness. Giving without need for the validation of thanks can be quite uplifting I think.It's the nature of things-though, I have to add that if you start squandering $100M on Lambos, you're gonna go broke pretty quick. On the other hand, in spite of all the horror stories, there are a lot of people who have won large amounts of money in lotteries and just gone on living their lives at a somewhat higher standard, and without ever having to worry about money again. My point of view-handed down from my father, and his father and grandfather before him-is that there's really only so much money you can spend for yourself on stuff-everything else is just showing off, or being silly, or something. At a certain point, the realization comes for most that money is power, and one should really use that money to do good for others.
But that's my point of view, and everyone else can do as they like-no skin off my back.
I agree absolutely Brian, I think wealth and poverty are not discrete and but part of a scale. I think the key to understanding our behaviour and reaction to giving is in my opinion that we possibly tend to always put ourselves towards the 'poor' end of that scale. I think that is human nature harking from the days when we walked the plains and food was scarce. For us, it is not that way now. Unfortunately for many, nothing has changed.I was a very small part of local program a few years ago. Money was raised (like $20,000) not very much and was then given away. People wrote in what they would do with the money (it was given out in $1,000.00 'grants'). The idea was that the money would benefit others and they would benefit by helping others. Many video taped their helping of others and the reactions of those receiving the gifts. For some it was dropping off bags of groceries at poorer neighbors homes, for others it was small home/auto repairs. Many of the videos were very touching and what is interesting is that they provided the momentum for others to also get into the act of giving and helping. Just as fear and hate are contagious so is hope.
Can't imagine doing this with the kind of money talked about in the thread but could see everyone in the thread give some thought and a put a couple of hundred dollars to a neighbors need. The high of giving and helping is just like the endorphin high runners get, except it can last for weeks or months and by reliving-recounting the giving the high returns. It does not take much. In Tim Sanders book 'Today We Are Rich' he tells of a day when his grandmother who he was living with gave a traveling man some work. The man worked hard all day and Tim watched and talked to the man learning some lessons (read the book it is worth it) at the end of the day his grandmother paid the man the money due, gave a bit extra and to Tim's surprise a pair of her deceased husbands shoes. As the man walked off with his new shoes his grandmother told Tim, "today we are rich". The lesson being no matter how 'poor' you are you can always find somebody a little worse off and give them a hand. In doing so you enrich your own life. I agree with the lesson.
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