Judo is one of the most injurious sports in existence. Bjj is much kinder to the body. I would only suggest beginning judo to children, teens and sub 25yr adults. Any later and you are very unlikely to get good at it and you will probably hurt yourself badly. Likely to do more harm than good. It is a young person's martial art.
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Judo is one of the most injurious sports in existence. Bjj is much kinder to the body. I would only suggest beginning judo to children, teens and sub 25yr adults. Any later and you are very unlikely to get good at it and you will probably hurt yourself badly. Likely to do more harm than good. It is a young person's martial art.
What taan-da is to you, no, there is not.
Me?
KPM's always trying to prove something about a system he knows nothing about.
Not only is he unaccepting of what he's told by those who know it, he's too proud to even ask what he's looking at. He'd rather define it himself. But he's wrong.
What are you rolling your eyes about? You do it in this very thread.
I am very happy to accept what you tell me about your system. It makes no sense whatsoever that you also wish to tell me about my own system, given that you don't know and are unwilling to learn anything about it.
I am very happy to accept what you tell me about your system. It makes no sense whatsoever that you also wish to tell me about my own system, given that you don't know and are unwilling to learn anything about it.
Well, I'm not too proud to ask for clarification on this, since you are offering. When I look at the videoclip from the OP at 11:25 I see the instructor advancing and attacking with a left and then a right inside gate tan-da that looks identical to the way I've seen it applied by many other VT and WC groups. What am I missing here?
What are they doing in that part of the clip?
I've already made it clear that I took it to be a fairly typical attacking/defending drill as seen practiced in many VT/WC clubs. So to avoid wasting more time, why don't you answer your rhetorical question and then enlighten us as to why this is any different than the way most VT/WC people use tan-da?
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wckf92
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I think this is what Geezer is asking you to answer
Danny T
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Now that is a excellent and informative answer.
What are they doing...
Really not much as for a real attack.
They both in a left lead the attacker steps forward and throws a weak uncommitted midline horizontal swinging type of right arm strike and the defender sets in with a left inside tan and right da. As soon as the tan is engaged the attacker swings a left arm doing the same type strike and the defender converts to a right inside tan and a left da and the attacker falls down.
Shifting taan-da in training simultaneously works both elbows linked with hips for two different punches, power, and body symmetry. One arm guides the other. When shifting to the opposite side, elbows are alternated. Inner becomes outer; outer becomes inner. Focus is on elbows (with hips) not hands. It's not an application for standing in the pocket and chasing arms left and right. It's not an application at all. It's abstract development of one's own mechanics. Focus on the hands and you see block and punch applications. Focus on the elbows and you see two separate punches being trained. In fighting, two arms work in rotation, not parallel like chi-sau.
I've already made it clear that I took it to be a fairly typical attacking/defending drill as seen practiced in many VT/WC clubs. So to avoid wasting more time, why don't you answer your rhetorical question and then enlighten us as to why this is any different than the way most VT/WC people use tan-da?
My reply was going to be along the lines of why bother? People here seem to feel that VT owes them something in terms of technical information, but also wish to criticise rather than listen. Not really a good atmosphere to pass on info.
LFJ was obviously feeling more charitable, good for him
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Danny T
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Danny T
Senior Master
Then why bother to enter the conversation?
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wckf92
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ummm...yeah....especially when you respond to a question with a question
Honest questions are welcome. Questions that are phrased to sound as if they are part of the long and boring forum feud don't inspire or motivate much.
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wckf92
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Nothing against him in particular, although when he says things like this:
Impossible! You did not see him do an inside gate tan-da at precisely 11:25 on the video, because we have been told that WSL VT doesn't really use tan-da!
or this
Yeah. WC/VT people often tend to be quick to pass judgement. We've had a few of those overly judgemental types on this forum. I think Saul would agree with that.
It does seem like the continuation of the battle is more important than talking about VT.
In fact the very premise of this thread- somebody actually agrees with those guys we all like to troll- can it be real (nudge nudge), its just a bit wearysome and doesn't inspire much effort back.
Don't worry though, carry on
