Why some people still don't want to wear mask?
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This is true. But the opposite is also true where there are many people who were morally correct and truthful that weren't put in prison. There are also people who have been put in prison and then released years later because they were morally correct and truthful.
Part of the reason that innocent people are put in jail is because other people were morally incorrect and not truthful. Other times a person breaks the law. In that case you can be morally correct and truthful and still get put in Jail. No matter how you look at it. It still matters.
There are a lot of facts that are not subject to interpretation. It's a fact that in general if you break the law you will have a legal penalty for doing so. It's a fact that you woke up today unless you haven't been to sleep since yesterday. It's a fact that driving while drunk increases your risk of having an accident. It's a fact that 2+2=4.
It's not difficult to know which facts are actual factual as we speak. That is controlled by the level of knowledge and ignorance you have on a subject. There are people who dismiss fact out of ignorance, and there are who would rather that you don't know the truth. But none of that changes what really happened. 2+2=4 even if a person chooses not to believe that.
jobo
Grandmaster
your trilizing this somewhat.
my sleeping habits are not really at issue, but its far from a fact that if your break the law you will face a penalty, ive broken the law two hundred times, give or take a few this week alone, number of penalties recieved,,, non,
breaking the law requires you to be caught and then them having sufficient evidence to convict.
if they have sufficient evidence you will be convicted if you did it or not, gaxt seldom matter in a court. being foubd to have been wrongly convicted some years layer is scant compensation,
nb can you prove to me that two and two make 4?
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This is why stated IN GENERAL. because there are exceptions based on what type of law and if you get caught.
You don't have to be convicted. Some laws only require that a fine be paid.
Solve this math problem correctly 2+2=
Steve
Mostly Harmless
It's telling that you did not include what is the most bizarre element: an administration that is undermining confidence in the voting process with no basis in fact, encouraging folks to commit voter fraud, actively working to suppress peoples' ability to vote, and actually inviting foreign interference in the election process. I mean, how could it not be bizarre, even without the pandemic? The above are documented facts. They're not opinions, in contrast to statements about "excessive media influence." Your inability to believe in facts is exactly what makes you easily manipulated.
“Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.”
― Aldous Huxley
“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”
― Martin Luther King Jr.
jobo
Grandmaster
well its not g2berally, if by generally you mean in the majority of cases , if thats not what you mean then what exaxtly does generally mean.
you need to be convicted in order to have to pay a fine
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it seems you cant prove 2 plus 2 equals 4, so thats may not be true either
jobo
Grandmaster
i think your in danger of getting another intresting thread shut down
This is not true in the U.S. I have had speeding tickets in the past, but I don't have a criminal record. But I broke the law and had to pay a fine.
Definition: Convicted - having been declared guilty of a criminal offense by the verdict of a jury or the decision of a judge.
When my background check comes in, it shows that I've never been convicted of a crime.
More like it seems that you don't know the answer to 2+2= ?
Being that you haven't solved it. So if you lack that ability then it calls into question your knowledge of other things.
jobo
Grandmaster
no you said it was a fact, im askibg you to prove it to me, thats what you can do with facts, if yyou cant its not a fact, you cant put the responsibility on to me to do it for you.
the answer to the question is taatlly dependent on which counting syatem you use , it is not unversally true, so not at all a fact
they told you this about the same time as they were telling you, about the tooth fairy , why do you believe one and not the other ?
peole get told stupid things when they are kids then spend their life beibg wrong
blah blah blah
Correctly solve it
Wrong. 2+2 = tooth fairy is incorrect. If you have 2 pencils and I gave you 2 pencils you wouldn't end up with a total of tooth fairy.
jobo
Grandmaster
radiation is still good for you now as it was then, in the correct dose, cocain makes you feel better whilst you die and almost certainly had a placibo effect, that cure quite a lot of thibgs and germany didnt think hitler was a god, do you have any facts?
jobo
Grandmaster
i take it youve given up on rational discusion and just decided to be silly, , no wonder you believe in the tooth fairy, you have the maturity of a 5 year old.
can you prove your fact or not?, its seems not
Steve
Mostly Harmless
I think we've pretty much run the course anyway.
Not being silly. If you solve 2+2= correctly then you would have your proof. You asked me to prove it. I asked you to solve that equation and at each post you fail to do so. That's on you. I already know the answer.
The same way you jump around this is the same way you jump around facts that other people present.
jobo
Grandmaster
your claim your burden of proof, im not sure why i bother chatting with you, your dim as a 3 watt bulb, stick to prancing round the garden making you neibours laugh, your good at that
and yet you still haven't sovled 2+2= but ask me to prove that it's = to 4
Steve
Mostly Harmless
Seriously, though, if we can't all agree that 2+2=4, what the hell are we doing? I mean, rarely does someone signal so clearly that they are unwilling to have a reasonable discussion in good faith than to argue about whether 2 + 2 = 4.
jobo
Grandmaster
well it doesnt always, im suprised you dont know that,? perhaps youd like to pick up the mantal and prove it does?
That's the problem that exists in society. Someone states a fact, then you ask them to check it out. Instead of doing that, they dance around it.
Then they try to turn it back around on you. An example of that is. his statement to you. "well it doesnt always, im suprised you dont know that,? perhaps youd like to pick up the mantal and prove it does?" None of that involves him solving 2+2=
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