What is WRONG with people?!

Yeah this has been pissing me off all weekend since it broke. Anyone thet knew about this and did nothing is just as guilty as Sandusky.
 
But what really gets me is the attitude put forth from some sources, like 'those were kids from broken homes, who would believe them'

I am seriously wondering if boys are not more at risk than girls in those shady dark voids of the human mind!
 
So tragic any way you look at it. I hope everyone involved with that incident gets whats coming to them.
 
granfire said:
But what really gets me is the attitude put forth from some sources, like 'those were kids from broken homes, who would believe them'I am seriously wondering if boys are not more at risk than girls in those shady dark voids of the human mind!
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they said on news 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 7 boys are molested. And only 1 in 10 are ever reported pretty sad
 
ballen0351 said:
they said on news 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 7 boys are molested. And only 1 in 10 are ever reported pretty sad
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considering that so few are actually reported, how can they be sure?!
 
I know it won't happen, but it is my opinion that those who knew about the molestations and did nothing should be charged with anything that happened after they knew. Granfire, I also cannot understand the thinking behind these people's inaction. What in this world is more important than the safety of our children?
 
WC_lun said:
I know it won't happen, but it is my opinion that those who knew about the molestations and did nothing should be charged with anything that happened after they knew. Granfire, I also cannot understand the thinking behind these people's inaction. What in this world is more important than the safety of our children?
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Money of course. How long would this have continued if the perpetrator was just an ordinary working stiff, and not the person responsible for the influx of millions of dollars in to the university?
 
Carol said:
Money of course. How long would this have continued if the perpetrator was just an ordinary working stiff, and not the person responsible for the influx of millions of dollars in to the university?
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In all fairness: It happens enough, perpetrated by the average working stiff. As stated previously: respectability is a great cover. Be a pillar of the community and you can get away with pretty much everything.

But there is so much wrong with the timeline of the events...
I mean, you see an under aged person being - well, not to get the site on the index - cornered by an adult, you just walk out and say nothing?! I don't think I'd have it in me, most certainly not the initial reaction before I thought about things. Is that where you dangle a big whopping carrot in front of the witness?

The whole lot of them needs to do time.
 
Excellent question. Reminds me of the old saying that all that's required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. There should be a lot of charges resulting from the cover-up and a lot of prominent folks should be sacked IMO. Of course, I said the same thing when similar scandals swept through the Catholic Church, and they seem to have recovered remarkably quickly.
 
There are times when we have a duty to act. It's just that simple. It's recognizing these times that distinguishes good men from bad men (and women).

I can see in a situation like this that confronting Sandusky might not be the best move. I've seen investigations fall apart because an administrator failed to keep their mouths shut and let employees know they're being investigated. But getting some facts as you can and then contacting the police seems like a no-brainer. It's rape, people.
 
Steve said:
There are times when we have a duty to act. It's just that simple. It's recognizing these times that distinguishes good men from bad men (and women).

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In this case more then just a moral duty to act its the Law. Your required to contact the police or social services if you believe abuse to a minor is going on.
The more that comes out the worse it looks. He was told 10 years ago he was no longer allowed to bring kids on campus anymore by the athletic director. Now if your concerned enough to tell him that then you damn well should have called the police. The first witness is the current wide reciever coach for Penn State. He apparently walked in on the act with Sandusky and a 10 yr old and he went and told the Athletic Director but not the police. My first reaction to walking in on that would have been to beat Sandusky down and drag him to the first cop I saw.
Then one of the victims went to Joe PAternos house on a Sat morning and told him he was molested by Snadusky and PAterno waited until Sunday night to call his athletic director and again didnt call the police.
So many adults failed these kids all in the name of money.
 
Truely a thing to bring sadness and anger. From the facts I have heard so far in the news, there is no excuse for there being no report to the police. Sandusky belongs in jail, and his accomplices with him. Since I don't know PA law, I don't know if Paterno can legally skate by showing he reported to his boss or not. But morally, and with his reputation for morality, he is not in a good position.
 
oftheherd1 said:
Truely a thing to bring sadness and anger. From the facts I have heard so far in the news, there is no excuse for there being no report to the police. Sandusky belongs in jail, and his accomplices with him. Since I don't know PA law, I don't know if Paterno can legally skate by showing he reported to his boss or not. But morally, and with his reputation for morality, he is not in a good position.
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The police are saying that Paterno fulfilled his legal obligation (by passing the information up the chain of command, where it was covered up), but completely failed his moral one.
 
granfire said:
considering that so few are actually reported, how can they be sure?!
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Most abuse doesn't come to light until the individual is an adult and they are in therapy then for something else altogether ... which usually can be caused by a chain of events and effects from that moment.

Why many don't report it is usually due to either parental pressures to suppress the event, self-shame by the child ... lord, the list goes on. There are far more reason to not report than to report, though we all want this to not be true.

"Why" is a dangerous question with unpleasant answers here.
 
shesulsa said:
Most abuse doesn't come to light until the individual is an adult and they are in therapy then for something else altogether ... which usually can be caused by a chain of events and effects from that moment.

Why many don't report it is usually due to either parental pressures to suppress the event, self-shame by the child ... lord, the list goes on. There are far more reason to not report than to report, though we all want this to not be true.

"Why" is a dangerous question with unpleasant answers here.
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The 'why nots' are easily enough to comprehend. As sad as that is.
But how do the statistics come about. If they are not reported, how can one collect data...
 
granfire said:
How come in polite society child molesters are protected, when they are considered the worst scum of the earth among thieves and murderers?!


http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoo...Paterno-exit-amid-sexual-abuse-scandal-110811
Penn State is 'pondering' Paternos exit.....
Whoop friggin do, about 2 decades too late!
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I think maybe it`s because they`re considered the worst scum of the earth. We either don`t want to admit that someone we know could do such a thing, or we`re afraid of making such an accusation and then finding out we`re wrong. I just don`t know. It`s easy to say that it doesn`t matter and that it`s better to accuse and then be proven wrong than to say nothing and let it happen even one more time......but what would any of us really do if we suspected someone but didn`t know for sure? Would you be able to risk branding an innocent person with suspicion forever? Very tough call, one I`m thankful I haven`t had to make yet.
 
David43515 said:
I think maybe it`s because they`re considered the worst scum of the earth. We either don`t want to admit that someone we know could do such a thing, or we`re afraid of making such an accusation and then finding out we`re wrong. I just don`t know. It`s easy to say that it doesn`t matter and that it`s better to accuse and then be proven wrong than to say nothing and let it happen even one more time......but what would any of us really do if we suspected someone but didn`t know for sure? Would you be able to risk branding an innocent person with suspicion forever? Very tough call, one I`m thankful I haven`t had to make yet.
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I think once you catch and old guy with a young kid in the shower, there is pretty much no need to assume innocence anymore.
 
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