Touch'O'Death said:If you think about it they both mean the same thing. Hand or fist methods (from) of China.
Sean
That's sort of what I was getting at. If you have a ferrari, you can call it 'italian car' or 'sweet ride' and neither is necessarily wrong, and sometimes 'sweet italian car' might be okay too.
Many folks noted for karate, wrote books calling it kempo. Many used the term 'karate kempo'. I'm cool with 'chinese hand fistfighting method.'
I think we're on the same page.
Matt