Joe Schilling, a MMAist, performs similar to repulse monkey while using rear hand for power. Joe’s movement…
Is that the same as "don't care"?
I think this is one of the things that differentiate styles. It's related to that style's doctrine of fighting range and main method of power generation. Traditional Okinawan karate is close range. The puzzle is how to get power without a big step or long extension of the attacking arm/leg to build momentum. In my style it's by chinkuchi in which hips play a role. There are a couple of other elements in close range power generation involved but they are hard to describe.
Static punch and running punch are different. If you look at this video, between his 1st right punch and his 2nd right punch, there are footwork involved. This is what I call "3 steps 1 punch".
A little more then that...
does "internal" power generation theory require "knee bend -> knee straight"? If the answer is no, why?
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I think every system has this puzzle. I'm sure they had large crowds back where fights broke out in restaurants or shops on a crowded street where there was limited space, or at a sporting event. If my punches are only strong if I take a step forward then I'm at a disadvantage when there is not enough space to take that step forward.
You can always punch when you
Very true.
The way I see it, at least when we do this in karate, it's there to practise the hand motion of the punch in isolation and it's also useful for conditioning. Doing 300 triple punches in horse stance will get you winded and strengthen your legs as a side effect, but when you then add the waist and leg motion in later exercises, you have a functional punch. That's almost all it's there to do.
The elbow and knee coordination are one of my favor subjects. So far, I have not heard many different opinions yet.
It's clear to see that this training can make a beginner to feel that power come from his foot and all the way up to his fist.
- Elbow bend and knee bend.
- Elbow straight and knee straight.
In your video, 6 Harmony Praying Mantis does not use "leg spring - bend knee -> straight knee.” Do you agree that they should follow your 6H interpretation and straighten knee?
Things don’t need to move in the same range in order to be coordinated, they only need to be activated. Exaggerating the concept into an overtly visible motion does not lend any validity to the concept itself. The airplane wing doesn’t need to flap like a bird to create lift, it just needs to be connected to the rest of the plane as it moves. I don’t need to visibly round my back to create Peng. I can still activate the ankle to feel root and force generation while in a deep Ma Bu. I can still coordinate my knee with my elbow while one is bent and other is straight. Where you show them straighten the knee and “push” against the ground to punch, I will have them bend the knee and “pull” against the ground to punch. That is still coordinating, just not the way you do it. Since I’m already down and pulling, you may not see much motion in the leg when I’m down and pulling with the leg to punch. Since this is my practice, I can move from the position and stay down. Will you need to stand straight up in order to straighten your knee for a punch to full extension? We have discussed this before.
I don’t like the word “throwing” the punch, I use “shoot” the punch for this exact reason you describe.
To be fair, I don’t agree with that interpretation of 6h.
I'm talking about "freeze the legs and throw multiple punches" that elbow and knee have no coordination.
IMO, body coordination training should start on day one. Any further delay may cause more problem in the future.
