It's not different and that's what I'm telling you.
You understand lol.
Especially if you are not practicing a "traditional" art and instead are looking for the absolute shortest path. But I know of no manner of training that doesn't employ repetitive routines that to the uninformed observer may seem divorced from practical application. When I watch boxers and wrestlers training, I see them doing a lot of stuff that doesn't look like what they do when competing, but they assure me that that stuff is useful.
Nope. Tradition and fighting are 2 different things to me. Someone had fights came up with a collection of fighting techniques that worked for them and called it a system. I want to learn those same techniques for fighting from a particular fighting system. The person who made the system says it works and provided a library of techniques for easy memory and provide a way to train others those techniques. It's not the only way, it's just the way that worked for him and the people he trained so he passes it on. This is how I see TMA .
Nope because I don't know what's going to be effective for me until I learn how to actually use it. So I go through all the techniques so that I can learn them. If I like it and can use it well then I'll keep it if not then I'll put it on the back burner, I wont' throw it away altogether because I may talk to a karate guy that knows how to do what I can't, and he or she gives me insight which turns a sucky technique into a really good technique for me. But I won't know until I've really come to an understanding of it along with any limitations that I may not be able to overcome in working the technique successfully. I still keep it because I may teach someone who can actually use it better than I can.
I do this to an extent. For example, I mention in a past post this month that Jow Ga doesn't include the fighting angles in the forms. So when ever possible I try to add those angles to the form so long as it doesn't cause me to get lost with where I am in the form. My forms look rough because I do them like I fight. It just looks like a cleaner fight and not a performance.
This is fine with me as my fall back is "Well at least I know how to use it" lol. My Sifu now actually like it because he can see that I actually understand what I'm doing and not just being a human copy machine. He came out of retirement to get his other students (who are now sifu's) back to the functional Jow Ga which is really the spirit of Jow Ga according to all the fight stories about someone beating up other competitors and stopping hearts with a kick. There's only 2 stories that I know of that are about Lion Dance. The rest is about fighting so that's the direction I head in.
Not true because the form is just one example of the possible applications for a technique. This is like saying that a chambered jab can only be thrown like it is thrown in the form. It is an EXAMPLE not the Only Way.
How do you think the form was born? It was born from application? To create form before application is backwards. Form is based on what is needed in the application, so you can't create a form until you do the application. Otherwise how would you know what to put in the form?
It doesn't. It was a response to geezer's statement about looking for the shortest path. The boxing video just shows some of the piece work that is done, focusing on stance, focusing on punches, focusing on movement. Some of the exact same things that happen in TMA systems like starting at the beginning (form or drill) versus starting at the application and working form there.
