Xequat said:
The point DC was making, that they had never met in the Senate, was still driven home.
The article pointed out that they actually *had* met at the Senate, and at Senate events.
"On Feb. 1, 2001, the vice president thanked Edwards by name at a Senate prayer breakfast and sat beside him during the event."
"On Jan. 8, 2003, the two met when the first-term North Carolina senator accompanied Elizabeth Dole (news - web sites) to her swearing-in by Cheney as a North Carolina senator, Edwards aides also said."
Xequat said:
You are using democrats.org as a reference? Pretty desperate.
Not desperate, just lazy, since I assumed you'd actually read the website, which cited articles, with references, in the Associated Press, the Washington Post, the Boston Globe, the New York Times, the Washington Times, and Factcheck.org, as well as appearances on NBC's "Meet the Press", the presidential debates, and even Bush's own budgets!
Xequat said:
Cheney was asked if he was surprised that other people made the connection between Iraq and 9/11 and Cheney said that he wasn't surprised. How is that linking Iraq and 9/11?
Again, if you actually *read* the posted articles, you'd find references to specific times when the administration liked Iraq and 9/11.
"Question: "The Washington Post asked the American people about Saddam Hussein, and this is what they said: 69 percent said he was involved in the September 11 attacks. Are you surprised by that?"
Cheney: No. I think it's not surprising that people make that connection." [NBC, Meet the Press, 11/14/03]
Cheney: "If we're successful in Iraq, if we can stand up a good representative government in Iraq, that secures the region so that it never again becomes a threat to its neighbors or to the United States, so it's not pursuing weapons of mass destruction, so that it's not a safe haven for terrorists, now we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11." [NBC, "Meet The Press," 9/14/03]"
Whether or not Cheney or Edwards won the debate is a separate topic from whether or not they lied, I agree. An educated populace with easy access to all of the facts might feel a bit differently, but given that the majority of Americans will never fact-check these debates, I think that lies and spin can be a very effective tactic.