My opinion is that USAT is not only trying to consolidate its power and control of the NGB but attempting to eliminate anyone who is providing information about violations of corporate by laws and assisting athletes with future legal claims against USAT for cover ups related to abuse of athletes by appointed coaches and other athletes?
I also think the sooner USAT is shut down possibly by bankruptcy due to so many legal claims if possible the sooner TKD can heal and have a new NGB that may be a coalition of several national groups represented on the board dedicated to serve Traditional TKD and the needs of everyone so we can get back to the business of TKD serving individuals, families, instructors, masters, Grand masters, communities, regions, states, and national forums for those few that want international support.
A truly good service NGB that loves all its members and can be trusted and shoes respect for age and experience will not be broke but have plenty of support from its members. There is far more money out there in non profit support than anyone realizes. Look how much money the Chamber of commerce raised to effect political agendas? Some of these same methods could be used if we could get our collective act together.
The comments and information below is not provide just to attract confirmation that we know its bad but should provide a boiler plate of how to build or support the new organization when it becomes available.
Also any of you who have been abused or know personally of athletes that have been abused and are afraid to come forward contact me I will refer you to the law firm that is currently representing the athletes with claims filed against the insurance companies and criminal charges to follow.
FROM MASTER CHUCK:
The USAT/ through USOC/ Askinas is going to do exactly what it wants to whom it wants from here on in.... The day USOC took over I knew it was all about Olympics and not about Taekwondo students and families.... True masters believe in family, family values and building of the family. We practice strengthening the core and discipline to make life for all better while giving no certain person financial advantage. We teach strength and perseverance to make life better for all in the future.....Any one teaching anything else is not a real martial artist, and they have no care or concern for anyone except themselves.
Until all students of Taekwondo in the USA back away from USAT they will not be willing to change....USAT cares not for the general population of Taekwondo in the USA. They want only the elite and the money.
I'm sad to say I'm a life member of USAT, but they would not listen to me either.
Many of us who have been around a long time would have been more than happy to of helped all along, like we used too. However it was all made quite clear that we of the old school were not welcome, even though we were the ones that built up the USATU from the very beginning.
Master Chuck
Master Rhonda
Larry Cain is a member of a dying breed. Master Cain exemplifies
honor, dignity and honesty. At times, his blunt honesty has insulted a
Good number of people in this organization, because of anyone in this
world, Larry tells it like it is. If Larry says he can't or won't tell
something, he won't. He takes his responsibilities more seriously than almost anyone I know.
Until recently Larry was the chair of the Nomination & Governance
Committee. He passed the hat to Bernard Robinson a few weeks ago,
through a legal vote of his committee because Larry's term is up
12/31/10 and he is not running again. He wanted the new chair to have time and experience before the next group is elected.
Larry is the only USAT Committee Chair to read and follow the bylaws
regarding his committee, with policies and procedures posted and
followed. I don't see the Ethics Committee or the AAC or any other
group's policies and procedures posted as required and his have been there for years.
Larry believes in calling a spade a spade and a vindictive so and so a
vindictive so and so. He has no tolerance for hubris and BS.
Yesterday, USAT sunk to a new low. A friend of mine exclaimed that
"this is more like the Nazi party than amateur sports". Yesterday Mr.
Cain received a call from CEO David Askinas, who is only the messenger, asking Mr. Cain to resign or be taken out of his position.
Mr. Cain's crime in the eyes of the CEO and the USAT Board? He
"communicates" with me. He doesn't toss his friends aside. You see a
few weeks ago when the Recommendations on the Membership Task Force
came out, I sent Mr. Cain an email telling him his committee needed to read these recommendations and listen to the BOD phone call, as there as a lot that affected their committee if implemented.
Mr. Cain sent my email, along with his comment that members should
express their opinions to the CEO, the BOD Chair and his committee.
Because he included my email, he copied me. He is that kind of man; he
doesn't forward your emails unless he copies you. He has honor and integrity.
He was offered the opportunity to fore go the embarrassment of being
tossed by resigning because the BOD respects him and his service. If
they respected him and his service they would have come to Mr. Cain
and asked him about what he discusses with me and others - and what he
doesn't. This is the worst kind of chicanery. It is my personal
opinion that this is to get him off the committee before the ballot
selections are made so ensure that the candidates Mr. Askinas and
others attempting to manipulate the election process want on that
ballot. They don't want a man of honor and integrity involved in the
process, so he has to go. Again, if they really valued him and his
service of how many decades to this organization, they would have gone to him and asked him, instead of sending a "messenger" to deliver the boot.
This isn't the first time Mr. Askinas wanted to boot Mr. Cain for Mr.
Cain's choices. In 2007, when the N&G elected Paul Scott to the
Independent position instead of a female friend of Mr. Askinas, David was apoplectic
, APOPLECTIC : of a kind to cause or apparently cause stroke <an apoplectic rage>; also : greatly excited or angered <was apoplectic over the news>. He was talking about getting Larry tossed because Mr. Scott was an acquaintance of Mr. Cain. Here was the CEO pissed off because the 5 members of the N&G elected a TKD guy with a lot of experience with other groups and could have been a great help with background checks and things - but they didn't pick the CEO's choice, a friend of the CEO who was very qualified and knew nothing of TKD.
If the BOD was really concerned about confidential information
leaking, they need to look to COS for the major sources of leakage.
However, they don't want to investigate it either.
Bottom line, Larry Cain can't be bullied or controlled. This is the reason USAT wants Larry Cain gone. The man has 2 months left of his term and they are removing him? You come to your own conclusions.
My understanding is that he has only been informally notified, with
the paperwork to follow. Mr. Cain has requested a formal hearing with the Judicial Committee.
Remember the Judicial Committee? we haven't had one since March 2010.
They didn't even know the term expired until they read it on my page.
I don't expect Larry to take this lying down, he has never been one to
back down from a vindictive bully and I doubt he has changed.
The message here is - who is next? No doubt the list is long.
Rhonda
I also think the sooner USAT is shut down possibly by bankruptcy due to so many legal claims if possible the sooner TKD can heal and have a new NGB that may be a coalition of several national groups represented on the board dedicated to serve Traditional TKD and the needs of everyone so we can get back to the business of TKD serving individuals, families, instructors, masters, Grand masters, communities, regions, states, and national forums for those few that want international support.
A truly good service NGB that loves all its members and can be trusted and shoes respect for age and experience will not be broke but have plenty of support from its members. There is far more money out there in non profit support than anyone realizes. Look how much money the Chamber of commerce raised to effect political agendas? Some of these same methods could be used if we could get our collective act together.
The comments and information below is not provide just to attract confirmation that we know its bad but should provide a boiler plate of how to build or support the new organization when it becomes available.
Also any of you who have been abused or know personally of athletes that have been abused and are afraid to come forward contact me I will refer you to the law firm that is currently representing the athletes with claims filed against the insurance companies and criminal charges to follow.
FROM MASTER CHUCK:
The USAT/ through USOC/ Askinas is going to do exactly what it wants to whom it wants from here on in.... The day USOC took over I knew it was all about Olympics and not about Taekwondo students and families.... True masters believe in family, family values and building of the family. We practice strengthening the core and discipline to make life for all better while giving no certain person financial advantage. We teach strength and perseverance to make life better for all in the future.....Any one teaching anything else is not a real martial artist, and they have no care or concern for anyone except themselves.
Until all students of Taekwondo in the USA back away from USAT they will not be willing to change....USAT cares not for the general population of Taekwondo in the USA. They want only the elite and the money.
I'm sad to say I'm a life member of USAT, but they would not listen to me either.
Many of us who have been around a long time would have been more than happy to of helped all along, like we used too. However it was all made quite clear that we of the old school were not welcome, even though we were the ones that built up the USATU from the very beginning.
Master Chuck
Master Rhonda
Larry Cain is a member of a dying breed. Master Cain exemplifies
honor, dignity and honesty. At times, his blunt honesty has insulted a
Good number of people in this organization, because of anyone in this
world, Larry tells it like it is. If Larry says he can't or won't tell
something, he won't. He takes his responsibilities more seriously than almost anyone I know.
Until recently Larry was the chair of the Nomination & Governance
Committee. He passed the hat to Bernard Robinson a few weeks ago,
through a legal vote of his committee because Larry's term is up
12/31/10 and he is not running again. He wanted the new chair to have time and experience before the next group is elected.
Larry is the only USAT Committee Chair to read and follow the bylaws
regarding his committee, with policies and procedures posted and
followed. I don't see the Ethics Committee or the AAC or any other
group's policies and procedures posted as required and his have been there for years.
Larry believes in calling a spade a spade and a vindictive so and so a
vindictive so and so. He has no tolerance for hubris and BS.
Yesterday, USAT sunk to a new low. A friend of mine exclaimed that
"this is more like the Nazi party than amateur sports". Yesterday Mr.
Cain received a call from CEO David Askinas, who is only the messenger, asking Mr. Cain to resign or be taken out of his position.
Mr. Cain's crime in the eyes of the CEO and the USAT Board? He
"communicates" with me. He doesn't toss his friends aside. You see a
few weeks ago when the Recommendations on the Membership Task Force
came out, I sent Mr. Cain an email telling him his committee needed to read these recommendations and listen to the BOD phone call, as there as a lot that affected their committee if implemented.
Mr. Cain sent my email, along with his comment that members should
express their opinions to the CEO, the BOD Chair and his committee.
Because he included my email, he copied me. He is that kind of man; he
doesn't forward your emails unless he copies you. He has honor and integrity.
He was offered the opportunity to fore go the embarrassment of being
tossed by resigning because the BOD respects him and his service. If
they respected him and his service they would have come to Mr. Cain
and asked him about what he discusses with me and others - and what he
doesn't. This is the worst kind of chicanery. It is my personal
opinion that this is to get him off the committee before the ballot
selections are made so ensure that the candidates Mr. Askinas and
others attempting to manipulate the election process want on that
ballot. They don't want a man of honor and integrity involved in the
process, so he has to go. Again, if they really valued him and his
service of how many decades to this organization, they would have gone to him and asked him, instead of sending a "messenger" to deliver the boot.
This isn't the first time Mr. Askinas wanted to boot Mr. Cain for Mr.
Cain's choices. In 2007, when the N&G elected Paul Scott to the
Independent position instead of a female friend of Mr. Askinas, David was apoplectic
, APOPLECTIC : of a kind to cause or apparently cause stroke <an apoplectic rage>; also : greatly excited or angered <was apoplectic over the news>. He was talking about getting Larry tossed because Mr. Scott was an acquaintance of Mr. Cain. Here was the CEO pissed off because the 5 members of the N&G elected a TKD guy with a lot of experience with other groups and could have been a great help with background checks and things - but they didn't pick the CEO's choice, a friend of the CEO who was very qualified and knew nothing of TKD.
If the BOD was really concerned about confidential information
leaking, they need to look to COS for the major sources of leakage.
However, they don't want to investigate it either.
Bottom line, Larry Cain can't be bullied or controlled. This is the reason USAT wants Larry Cain gone. The man has 2 months left of his term and they are removing him? You come to your own conclusions.
My understanding is that he has only been informally notified, with
the paperwork to follow. Mr. Cain has requested a formal hearing with the Judicial Committee.
Remember the Judicial Committee? we haven't had one since March 2010.
They didn't even know the term expired until they read it on my page.
I don't expect Larry to take this lying down, he has never been one to
back down from a vindictive bully and I doubt he has changed.
The message here is - who is next? No doubt the list is long.
Rhonda
