UFC 193

[ShotoNoob]

One steps were never meant for fighting with. The only purpose of one steps is to train movement so you don't have to think about what comes next in a real fight. One steps train muscle memory not fighting.

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In you opinion.... aka your sparring-centric curriculum....

 

[ShotoNoob]

Who is Honda you keep referring to?

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HOnda is a nickname ronda has been given by MMA fans.... Kinda catchy, don't you think...???

As to Ronda's striking skills, they have some power but her fundamentals are not very good. (as many of the grapplers turned strikers).

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Right Danny. I will qualify your reply a bit further in that she ("Honda") looks good in practice with Edmond. Transition to the Ocatagon against RESISTING OPPONENT... she goes downhill... degenerates often to brawling. So do most of the MMA competitors (strikers & grapplers) we see publicly.... Jai Harman no.... his striking was very good.... Gave you a thumbs up on your MMA striking, Jai....

Ronda has done very well because she pressured and played her game.

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Yes, dead on. And most sensible fans & commentators see this as you do

Grappling.In this past fight the opponent was able to withstand the pressure with her footwork and distancing control exposing Rhonda's lack of striking defense and timing control.

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Yeah, I've said repeatedly here the bona karate would do the same... actually better against a grappler-dependent MMA fighter, opponent.
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Where HOlm surprised me is how she ramped up the intensity of her striking.... really pounding Ronda.... Traditional karate readily goes much higher in intensity.... It was the intensity of Holm hitting repeatedly & hitting hard.... basically took the fight by end of Round 1.... tactically speaking...

Ronda is a competitor; she will either learn from this, make changes and return better or she will loose again.

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Danny, now you're talking to your students.... but good lesson no doubt.... I would be interested in seeing a thread where a striker specialist like Ja Gow and say you on the grappling end. In fact, your style encompasses the divide between grappling & striking... so another grappling specialist like Tony D.... the three of you could put up a very good Thead on how Ronda should approach her MMA strategies going forward.... toward a successful return....
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Final Note: On of my big criticisms of Greg Jackson / Winky duo... is the fan base goes ga ga over the "Big Name," like these two have some special lock on MMA coaching.... My money is on Jai Harman, from his demos on striking alone.... he could provide the tactical input to Ronda... I think Ronda could step up her striking a long way by studying under Jai Harman..... and he has a mixed striking style resume to boot. Make sense....?

 

[ShotoNoob]

Dear lord, I wish all the American commentators, fan boys etc etc would stop saying Rousey is bummed! it has us rolling around laughing until we cry. What it means in American is really not what it means elsewhere and puts a whole different complexion on why she'd hiding her face and staying quiet!!

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Tez3... I agree with your perspective here... The best thing HOnda can do right now is lay low. Good, good, point....

 

[elder999]

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HOnda is a nickname ronda has been given by MMA fans.... Kinda catchy, don't you think...???

She doesn't like it.

Used to live in her Honda Accord. That's where it comes from.

So, no. Not so catchy.

 

[ShotoNoob]

She doesn't like it.

Used to live in her Honda Accord. That's where it comes from.

So, no. Not so catchy.

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Pleaseeeee....

 

[Tony Dismukes]

Who is Honda you keep referring to?

It's a joke in some places online (like reddit.com/r/bjj), pronouncing the "R" in Ronda as if she were Brazilian.

I will qualify your reply a bit further in that she ("Honda") looks good in practice with Edmond. Transition to the Ocatagon against RESISTING OPPONENT... she goes downhill... degenerates often to brawling. So do most of the MMA competitors (strikers & grapplers) we see publicly

I'll have to strongly disagree on that.

I would be interested in seeing a thread where a striker specialist like Ja Gow and say you on the grappling end. In fact, your style encompasses the divide between grappling & striking... so another grappling specialist like Tony D.... the three of you could put up a very good Thead on how Ronda should approach her MMA strategies going forward.... toward a successful return....

Given that Ronda's grappling is far superior to my own, I would be pretty presumptuous to offer her advice on that topic.

 

[elder999]

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Pleaseeeee....

Hey, it's true-so called Portuguese pronunciations not withstanding, she used to live in her Honda Accord, and she doesn't like it.

 

[drop bear]

Questions, questions, questions... fodder for a new strategy for Honda thead....
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Bye & bye... Ronda striking form is better in her demos compared to what she actually performs in large in the Octagon. Proper 1-step kumite would take the demo-highlight Honda out in seconds... not 6 minutes like Holm did so spectacularly... That's the power of traditional karate. But too hard to do... to hard to train....
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So it's up to you'se guys now....

Why it's it too hard to train?

 

[ShotoNoob]

A one size fits all fight strategy is rarely possible.

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That's wise for most practitioners

The what if's have to be accounted for and there needs to be more than one plan of attack.

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Already accounted for in the traditional version of the Judo curriculum....

Questions like, "What is the plan if I can't close the gap without eating heavy punches" should always have an viable answer or at a minimum a process that will allow an answer to be found during battle.

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Already in the traditional karate curriculum.... certainly in the boxing "sweet science" curriculum. The GRacie's advertised they had this nailed (NOT!).

Rousey would have given herself some analytical time if she didn't press so much.

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Yeah, this is kind of implicit in how you train. Pressing the action is precisely though, the best route for a Judoka to do. Hurling oneself across the Octagon.... now Judo has gone out the windowcompletely ... bad BJJ too TMU.

She also has to learn how to kick. If her kicking ability is so terrible then they will need to figure something out. Legs often have a longer reach than the opponents arms and from what I saw in the video there were lots of opportunities to throw some low kicks to the back of the leg. Knot up the calf muscle and the opponent will move less.

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Tactically ideal. HOwever, I'm not the greatest kicker.... I can take people apart with my hands.... Am I prepared to kick tactically, absolutely as you say...

 

[ShotoNoob]

Hey, it's true-so called Portuguese pronunciations not withstanding, she used to live in her Honda Accord, and she doesn't like it.

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Ha ha... I accede to you as the MT global ambassador....

 

[elder999]

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Pleaseeeee....

(And, in addition to being kinda psycho, haven't you noticed how sensitive she is?)
She auctioned the thing off, last year.

Ronda Rousey auctioning Honda she used to live in.

UFC Bantamweight Champion Ronda Rousey's Honda Accord LX 2005

 

[Tony Dismukes]

Hey, it's true-so called Portuguese pronunciations not withstanding, she used to live in her Honda Accord, and she doesn't like it.

Didn't know that.

I wasn't using the name anyway, since it seems like a fairly lame joke, but now I'll be certain not to in the future.

 

[Tez3]

HOnda is a nickname ronda has been given by MMA fans.... Kinda catchy, don't you think...???

Hell, I don't like her and I think that calling her that is stupid and disrespectful. What's with the upper case letters on some of your words?

. So do most of the MMA competitors (strikers & grapplers) we see publicly....

I don't think you know what you are talking about really.

Yeah, I've said repeatedly here the bona karate would do the same...

What is 'bona' karate?

 

[ShotoNoob]

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[ShotoNoob]

Hey, it's true-so called Portuguese pronunciations not withstanding, she used to live in her Honda Accord, and she doesn't like it.

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Incidentally, I'm a big Ronda fan. I appreciate her aggressive, sport champion mindset.... As a rule... useless against a mentally disciplined opponent like me. I owe Holm my support for proving that unequivocally....
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If I put my coach hat on, Ronda would best serve herself by branching out from Mom... who gave her a great start... and coaching base. Ronda needs to direct her attention from being a bad *** to being a smart *** as the next step.... Jackson & Winky are smart asses.... very smart, nonetheless, about being asses. I think a striking trainor like Jai Harman could fill that void, without all the MMA celebrity ego nonsense that Jackson / Winky carry as baggage... A first step philosophically, would be to confine the personal attitude as a promotional necessary.
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Holm demonstrated hands down that the "MEAN gIRLS" schlock isn't going cut it against honed, professional competitors....
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A traditional karate mindset would benefit Ronda tremendously. I don't see HOnda taking karate right now. So I think a fellow MMA competitor & instructor like Jai Harman is the best route to do the kind of tactical methods say Ja Gow speaks off... Jai's style is readily applicable to MMA... the Muay thai an optimal style striking< IMHO.

 

[ShotoNoob]

you should read my post again. i think you misunderstood me. what I said was clinching and grip fighting are where her judo shines most...
and OUTSIDE of those two areas (clinching/grip fighting) her ability to fight for position hasn't been shown to be too effective.

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Ya'll should read my posts again (&again &again)... Said a mouthful didn't ya....

 

[Tez3]

. useless against a mentally disciplined opponent like me.

Not that you are one to boast of course...........

Holm demonstrated hands down that the "MEAN gIRLS" schlock isn't going cut it against honed, professional competitors....

WHAT?

A traditional karate mindset would benefit Ronda tremendously. I don't see HOnda taking karate right now

What's with the 'HOnda' thing? If you are a big fan you certainly aren't showing her any respect.

'a traditional karate mind-set'? what's that when it's at home? do you mean disciplined? technique focused ? well she hasn't got anywhere in MMA has she with her current training.........>shakes head<

To be good enough at karate and get to a stage, being taught properly, where she could use just karate as her stand up would take years. Better for her to go off to Thailand for Muay Thai or The Netherlands for kick boxing training.

 

[ShotoNoob]

It's a joke in some places online (like reddit.com/r/bjj), pronouncing the "R" in Ronda as if she were Brazilian.

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Don't really know the source... I feel like Holly Holm does about it... Holly speaks my position very well...

I'll have to strongly disagree on that.

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Predictable.

Given that Ronda's grappling is far superior to my own, I would be pretty presumptuous to offer her advice on that topic.

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Ok, then don't... I'll use Danny's T. answer here...

 

[ShotoNoob]

(And, in addition to being kinda psycho, haven't you noticed how sensitive she is?)
She auctioned the thing off, last year.

Ronda Rousey auctioning Honda she used to live in.

UFC Bantamweight Champion Ronda Rousey's Honda Accord LX 2005

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Again, Holly Holm speaks my mind professionally on such. I respect Honda as an MMA competitor, and the successes she has worked hard for. Very hard.
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NO doubt now she can afford to upgrade her 'wheels.'

 

[ShotoNoob]

Here's some sanctioned sport karate. Wonder how HOlm (her footwork) would fare against female karateka's doing this?

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Holm was asked @ aRousey Post-fight interview... if she believed she had the skills to take on Machida. Well here's some female karate competitors... Machida point fighting style.... some nice tactics by Ms. Brunette Ponytail...
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Sport karate closing-the-distance. Ja Gow... The hands down guard seen here also dis-proves your intuitive thinking about hands up guard being quicker necessarily....