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Karazenpo
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The Kai said:
Hey Todd, those duck walks and bunny hops we're something else, weren't they?,lol. We still use them at my school and they're part of most tests. Prof. Joe
Tracy Kenpo vs. EPAK
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Hey Todd, those duck walks and bunny hops we're something else, weren't they?,lol. We still use them at my school and they're part of most tests. Prof. Joe
sorry, i didn't see where you mentioned angles. nonetheless, lines, angles, and targets all differ, but as humans we are bound to movements that fall along those lines and angles.
you talk about change and that it's necessary, so why are men, women, and children being taught 101 ways to damage or terminate a human being without teaching the legal ramifications and the minimum and maximum effects of strikes/punches.
i hate to pin that last comment on you because you may very well be doing that; however, it does make for an interesting conversation.
you talk about change and that it's necessary, so why are men, women, and children being taught 101 ways to damage or terminate a human being without teaching the legal ramifications and the minimum and maximum effects of strikes/punches.
i hate to pin that last comment on you because you may very well be doing that; however, it does make for an interesting conversation.
The Kai
Master of Arts
Right with Kenpo comes a lot of responsability, we have had classroom discussions based on news items or incidents!
While you may think that every attack will fall within the lines and angles that you are comfortable with is somewhat limited in application. The uppercutt thrown by a Hung gar Stlist vs the uppercut by a Kickboxer same punch right?? Try pulling the exact defense off on both techinques. When sparring you are forced to adapt, take things out of the Class Rooom Model (Ideal Phase) into a more free response.
Joe, we too still pull out the bunny hops once in a great while, when it's not to cold out!
Todd
While you may think that every attack will fall within the lines and angles that you are comfortable with is somewhat limited in application. The uppercutt thrown by a Hung gar Stlist vs the uppercut by a Kickboxer same punch right?? Try pulling the exact defense off on both techinques. When sparring you are forced to adapt, take things out of the Class Rooom Model (Ideal Phase) into a more free response.
Joe, we too still pull out the bunny hops once in a great while, when it's not to cold out!
Todd
Old Fat Kenpoka
Master Black Belt
The Kai said:
To maximize the effect Todd is looking for, be sure to lean forward and extend your chin.
The Kai
Master of Arts
Having worked with different systems of Kenpo, you can defiitly see "Key Motions" that show up in the different branchs. How to find the original Kenpo. First get all the different branchs in the same room, have them dissect each motion see if there is anything the same in thier branch.GAB said:
The difficulties
!.) Getting everyone in the same room
2.) Kenpo has changed not only thru the various branch (AK, Tracy's, Goshin, Cerio's, Castro and Kara-ho)
3.) Kenpo changed as these "founders' were studing. IMHO Chow was never stagnent. Maybe that is why there is a difference in the between the different time layers
4.) and of course differences in how it was transmitted
Kenpo has changed, Kenpo will change. GM say "Kenpo is the law of the fist in transition".
Todd
GAB
3rd Black Belt
Hi Todd,
As you probably know. The instructors that I train with and hang around, will disagree with the straight line concept. It is an illusion all strikes and movement is/are in a, not so straight line.
Movement of feet can be considered straight but not the strikes etc.
I have a tendacy to want to argue the point but alas, I am not going to, for it is really not worth the time.
Listen and think, keep the mouth shut and play their game...I think EPAK's universal pattern is pretty clear.
I was at a lesson yesterday and had some disagreements, it worked out but we did not come to an agreement just worked through the lesson without either one of us feeling it was a good one...
That is what makes the world go around. Sometimes instructors need to listen to what the student wants and is paying for.
I believe private lessons are different than class lessons. The student is in charge of the lesson not the instructor.
What is your take on that???
Regards, Gary
As you probably know. The instructors that I train with and hang around, will disagree with the straight line concept. It is an illusion all strikes and movement is/are in a, not so straight line.
Movement of feet can be considered straight but not the strikes etc.
I have a tendacy to want to argue the point but alas, I am not going to, for it is really not worth the time.
Listen and think, keep the mouth shut and play their game...I think EPAK's universal pattern is pretty clear.
I was at a lesson yesterday and had some disagreements, it worked out but we did not come to an agreement just worked through the lesson without either one of us feeling it was a good one...
That is what makes the world go around. Sometimes instructors need to listen to what the student wants and is paying for.
I believe private lessons are different than class lessons. The student is in charge of the lesson not the instructor.
What is your take on that???
Regards, Gary
The Kai said:
RavenDarkfellow
Orange Belt
I've been on Vacation the last week+ and was thus unable to respond.
I'm just wondering, Kembudo-Kai, how it is that you claim to have a 2cnd degree blackbelt, yet you seem to lack a white-belt in respect?
I said nothing offensive or demeaning, I was merely making my opinion voiced, and for some reason, your insecure little ego decided it was a good opportunity to insult me, so you could feel like a big man. Did it work, big man? You feel nice and puffed up now?
I have to say, as a martial artist I tend not to find it necessary to create further ego boosts. My strength, skill, and simple participation within the art has given me the self-respect and confidence I formerly lacked. I had assumed this was true of all real martial artists.
I'm just wondering, Kembudo-Kai, how it is that you claim to have a 2cnd degree blackbelt, yet you seem to lack a white-belt in respect?
I said nothing offensive or demeaning, I was merely making my opinion voiced, and for some reason, your insecure little ego decided it was a good opportunity to insult me, so you could feel like a big man. Did it work, big man? You feel nice and puffed up now?
I have to say, as a martial artist I tend not to find it necessary to create further ego boosts. My strength, skill, and simple participation within the art has given me the self-respect and confidence I formerly lacked. I had assumed this was true of all real martial artists.
Kembudo-Kai Kempoka
Senior Master
I don't see rank claims anywhere; that 2nd Black thing is a MartialTalk placement relating to nothing more than the number of posts I've stuck on the board over time. I do disclose to serious inquiries: Based on your post and the absolutely huge piece of anime/RPG art you had on your sig line, I did not take you as a serious poster. I DID misinterpret your name and artwork as bing the work of kid I used to know, who was a huge RPG fan and excellent artist who drew an RPG character named Raven for his hobby, and thought I might flush out a "howdy" with a tease. Apparently, you are not he, eh?RavenDarkfellow said:
What you don't know about me could fill volumes. Let me know when your training teaches you patience and inquiry...to respond strategically, and not react emotionally.
Regards,
Dave
RavenDarkfellow
Orange Belt
I do apologize for the rank thing, as I misinterpretted the post-signifyer for the rank claim. (As one of the profile options asks you to enter your rank, if you so choose.) That's what I mistook it for.
As to me being whoever you "thought" I was, no I'm not. It may please you to learn that I -am- an RPG/anime fan, however. The picture I displayed I had hoped would be smaller and less intrusive-- seeing that it wasn't, though, I quickly changed it.
I apologize if I overreacted, but it was quite frustrating to find that after my serious, polite post, you had criticized me (even if it was joking) without even saying anything to do with the point of the message. I am over it, however, and will appreciate it if we can just put it behind us.
As to me being whoever you "thought" I was, no I'm not. It may please you to learn that I -am- an RPG/anime fan, however. The picture I displayed I had hoped would be smaller and less intrusive-- seeing that it wasn't, though, I quickly changed it.
I apologize if I overreacted, but it was quite frustrating to find that after my serious, polite post, you had criticized me (even if it was joking) without even saying anything to do with the point of the message. I am over it, however, and will appreciate it if we can just put it behind us.
Old Fat Kenpoka
Master Black Belt
RevenDarkFellow:
I have to tell you a story. The final paper for my undergrad business management capstone class was a case study. I mispelled the name of the case-study's company president, mispelled it the same way, 49 times. The professor dinged me 1 point each time I mispelled it. His comment was: "if you were working for this guy, and you didn't get his name right, you'd get fired."
Anyway...in your profile...you mispelled "Tracy".
I have to tell you a story. The final paper for my undergrad business management capstone class was a case study. I mispelled the name of the case-study's company president, mispelled it the same way, 49 times. The professor dinged me 1 point each time I mispelled it. His comment was: "if you were working for this guy, and you didn't get his name right, you'd get fired."
Anyway...in your profile...you mispelled "Tracy".
RavenDarkfellow
Orange Belt
Doh! *rubs head* Thanks for the heads-up.
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