Tolerance at the university, Bristol Palin axed

[elder999]

I think the show is called teenage mom, airs on MTV....

Point is, she has no earthy idea what a regular teenage mom is going through, yeah, she was 16 when she got knocked up, but that's about were all the similarities end.

She sets about as good an example as Octomom...

Not disagreeing with you, but she was 17 when she got pregnant: She was born in OCt., 1990, and her son was born Dec. 2008......assuming he was a full termer-or even 8 monther-that means he was conceived in March or April of 2008, after she turned 17......

 

[billc]

Well, technically there is a "teen" at the end of seventeen, so technically she is an unwed "teen" mom. Being an unwed mom or dad is tough at any age. It takes two to tango in more than just the "magic moment."

 

[billc]

Granfire, she has some idea, I mean it has changed parts of her life forever, but you are right, luckily she and the baby won't suffer the way other unwed mom's and their babies do. She still brings attention, and might attract bigger crowds to the overall event as well as well as more media attention.

 

[granfire]

Not disagreeing with you, but she was 17 when she got pregnant: She was born in OCt., 1990, and her son was born Dec. 2008......assuming he was a full termer-or even 8 monther-that means he was conceived in March or April of 2008, after she turned 17......

LOL, so I have her a year younger.... giver her ten more and she'll be happy for it.

But frankly it is not all that important to the matter. I don't consider her anything in terms of role models or spokes people. She is atypical and has really not accomplished anything by herself.
frankly those reality TV teen moms have probably moreto say about these things, and their experience is skewed....

 

[Kacey]

yes Granfire, go to any highschool in the U.S. and you will find those tragic stories, but she brings celebrity and attention to the issue that someone from an ordinary highschool wouldn't.

I knew a pre-teen mom... she was 11 when she got pregnant, 12 when she had the baby - 13 when she told me she didn't understand what all the fuss was about, she didn't have any problems with him the hour every week that Social Services let her see her son. Granted, she wasn't the brightest child I'd ever met (by a long shot - she was in special ed for a IQ of about 68 - 2 standard deviations below the norm of 100) - but she was completely serious, and not that far off the opinion I got from an average 10th grader, who told me she saw no reason to birth control; if she got pregnant, her parents would raise it, so what was the problem?

I think the show is called teenage mom, airs on MTV....

Point is, she has no earthy idea what a regular teenage mom is going through, yeah, she was 16 when she got knocked up, but that's about were all the similarities end.

She sets about as good an example as Octomom...

True... I had a student a few years ago who was born when his mother was 13 - by the time he was 12, she was coming to meetings at school (reluctantly) to discuss his behavior... her opinion was that he, being the age she was when she got pregnant, was now a man and totally responsible for himself, including coming to school - she took away his cell phone, so when he didn't come home for a week or so, she had no way to track him; after all, she had a 5 year-old and 1 year-old to worry about, as well as asthma, and it was winter - we didn't really expect her to go look for him, did we? Perhaps she would be a better guest speaker than Bristol Palin.

At the beginning of 8th grade, we caught the boy giving out condoms in a school bathroom, telling his friends that they shouldn't leave babies behind like his father (now in the state penitentiary) left all over the neighborhood. Sadly, 2 years later (he's in 10th grade now) he has 2 kids of his own... that we know of. He might be a pretty good speaker too.

 

[Blade96]

Don't forget to send out invitaitons blade96.

You can come watch

 

[Tanaka]

"If you're good at something, never do it for free."

The Joker

I'll detail your car for 20k

 

[CanuckMA]

Which is the exact same reason why recovering alcoholics don't run AA meetings.

Wait. Never mind.

Pax,

Chris

Well, they run the meetings because they have kicked the habit to help other people do the same.

She speaks on abstinence because she has kicked that and... :boing2:

 

[Tez3]

I think it's right she was axed if she was going to cost that amount of money, if my children were at college I wouldn't want the college paying put money which could be used for far better things such as actual books etc. If they need an unmarried mother to talk about abstinence, I daresay they could have got one for free so why pay.
I don't believe in watch she has to tell the studetns but it's right they are told all sides of everything, but not by someone who's going to cost money, in this time of credit crunch and when people are finding it hard to manage. If they are paying for their children's education it must be annoying to have anyone whatever their message paid a vast sum of money just to speak.

 

[WC_lun]

She was hired to give a speach under the thinking that her celbrity status would help the cause being spoken about. Instead her status as a teenage mom and the daughter of a right wing media figure hurt the cause. Result, she was dismissed. In my opinion, it isn't a big deal. I find it amusing that people are trying to score political points from this.

 

[bushidomartialarts]

She was hired to give a speach under the thinking that her celbrity status would help the cause being spoken about. Instead her status as a teenage mom and the daughter of a right wing media figure hurt the cause. Result, she was dismissed. In my opinion, it isn't a big deal. I find it amusing that people are trying to score political points from this.

I'm with you. This kind of thing happens all the time when groups hire speakers. People are considered, some are hired. Some who are hired are then dismissed.

It seems fair that Bristol, who was hired only because she was Bristol Effing Palin (as mentioned, there are 20-year-old moms who'll do it for cheaper), was subsequently fired only because she was Bristol Effing Palin.

At least there is symmetry.

 

[Nomad]

From the story I read, the cost of the panel was $20k, Bristol Palin was only expected to get ~17k of that.

Clear cost-cutting measure, brought about by student indignation.

 

[granfire]

From the story I read, the cost of the panel was $20k, Bristol Palin was only expected to get ~17k of that.

Clear cost-cutting measure, brought about by student indignation.

lol
bargain basement deal there...

 

[CoryKS]

Here, I'll do the astinence side of the issue for them, cheap:

"Close your legs. That will be $5,000."

 

[granfire]

Here, I'll do the astinence side of the issue for them, cheap:

"Close your legs. That will be $5,000."

LOL

I got one better: Pinch a penny between your knees and keep it there...but that'll be $5000,01 (penny included)

 

[Empty Hands]

Here, I'll do the astinence side of the issue for them, cheap:

"Close your legs. That will be $5,000."

LOL

I got one better: Pinch a penny between your knees and keep it there...but that'll be $5000,01 (penny included)

I'll do it for $4000!

 

[crushing]

LOL

I got one better: Pinch a penny between your knees and keep it there...but that'll be $5000,01 (penny included)

And for the non-abstinence types, this is a good idea for increasing friction.

 

[granfire]

And for the non-abstinence types, this is a good idea for increasing friction.

Then again, that number could fetch you 17k....