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In my previous post (which can be found at http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42496)
there were several questions about what styles of tai ji, gong fu and sanda were taught, and by which teachers.
That thread has become a discussion about something else, so i have created a new thread for discussion and feedback about the particular things one can learn at the xun hu shan school.
Please understand that on our website, at www.chanwugongfu.net, there is a general overview of what is taught, however, in trying to be more specific, i have done my best to cross the language berrier and find out what particular styles, forms and traditions are taught here...
Bear in mind that i speak basic chinese, enough to get around in the towns and have basic conversation, and my master understands the same amount of english.
When i tried to sit him down and explain that "internet people" want to know what styles are taught here, he said "shaolin style". I told him that i already said that, and that they wanted to know names. His initial response was "Many name, many masters here know many different". I had a little trouble explaining the difference between a "style" and a "form". So... some of these may be styles and systems, and some may be specific forms from specific systems... it was the best i could do. As far as "old master" or master ren ri qing, he rattled off about a million things, and mater wang said "he long time study, maybe you stay here many year no understand he teach" (you get used to the yoda speak after about a week) So he asked master ren qi what he knew best and we narrowed it down to 5 or 6 things. I will say that master ren qi, master ren qiang (new sanda teacher, not on the website) and master ren he all come from the same (ren) family, a prominant family in shandong province renouned for their skill in the 2 sectioned staff. To watch them is AMAZING. They have their own liniage, but as fellow westerners, you know the story on that... it may or may not get passed on to us (and then perhaps not everything). It's traditional ren family shandong gong fu, i couldn't get a name from them.
So then, here is what i was able to find out.
Gong-fu
Master Ren-ri qing
Xiao hu che
xiao hu yan
yan zi diao shuei
san hu zhang
liu shi chuei?
tang lang pai (i think this is mantis... master wang said "he very old teach this, i try find you new mantis teacher" when ren-qi said this)
master wang described his styles as "chuan tong gong fu" or traditional old chinese gong fu
Master Wang
shao lin xi ying qi gong (hard qigong i think)
nan quan (traditional, not wushu)
hei hu quan
ba gua
shao lin dao
shao lin suen
shao lin jian
shao lin jian
shao lin qiang
shao lin ying quan
wu xing ba fa
Tai Tsu Chang quan
Lo Han quan
(master wang went on with some others, but i wasn't sure if they were forms or styles as he started doing forms while he was showing them. I basicly got out of him that if it is shaolin, he knows it. Bear in mind that he was a shaolin monk when there were still masters teaching from before the "corruption" and horrible times for shaolin.)
Master Ren He
(He only teaches students that have been here for a year or more)
This teacher wasn't here when i did my research. I have seen him in books on shaolin gong fu since i've been here (that master wang has in his room), gong fu magazines and more. From what i understand he is pretty big in CMA, though i have never heard of him. There is more info on the website.
Master Ren qiang
Sanda (san shou)
He has taught sanda for 21 years.
He also teaches the ren family style gong fu.
Tai ji
Master Wang, Master Ren He - taijiquan
Qi Gong
Master Wang, Master Ren He - shao lin xi ying qi gong
The way it went down was them saying the styles and writing the charicters in chinese, while a classroom teacher transcribed the pinyin. There may have been some mistakes or things lost in translation.
Hope this answers some questions, and raises some new ones.
Thanks!
-Rob
there were several questions about what styles of tai ji, gong fu and sanda were taught, and by which teachers.
That thread has become a discussion about something else, so i have created a new thread for discussion and feedback about the particular things one can learn at the xun hu shan school.
Please understand that on our website, at www.chanwugongfu.net, there is a general overview of what is taught, however, in trying to be more specific, i have done my best to cross the language berrier and find out what particular styles, forms and traditions are taught here...
Bear in mind that i speak basic chinese, enough to get around in the towns and have basic conversation, and my master understands the same amount of english.
When i tried to sit him down and explain that "internet people" want to know what styles are taught here, he said "shaolin style". I told him that i already said that, and that they wanted to know names. His initial response was "Many name, many masters here know many different". I had a little trouble explaining the difference between a "style" and a "form". So... some of these may be styles and systems, and some may be specific forms from specific systems... it was the best i could do. As far as "old master" or master ren ri qing, he rattled off about a million things, and mater wang said "he long time study, maybe you stay here many year no understand he teach" (you get used to the yoda speak after about a week) So he asked master ren qi what he knew best and we narrowed it down to 5 or 6 things. I will say that master ren qi, master ren qiang (new sanda teacher, not on the website) and master ren he all come from the same (ren) family, a prominant family in shandong province renouned for their skill in the 2 sectioned staff. To watch them is AMAZING. They have their own liniage, but as fellow westerners, you know the story on that... it may or may not get passed on to us (and then perhaps not everything). It's traditional ren family shandong gong fu, i couldn't get a name from them.
So then, here is what i was able to find out.
Gong-fu
Master Ren-ri qing
Xiao hu che
xiao hu yan
yan zi diao shuei
san hu zhang
liu shi chuei?
tang lang pai (i think this is mantis... master wang said "he very old teach this, i try find you new mantis teacher" when ren-qi said this)
master wang described his styles as "chuan tong gong fu" or traditional old chinese gong fu
Master Wang
shao lin xi ying qi gong (hard qigong i think)
nan quan (traditional, not wushu)
hei hu quan
ba gua
shao lin dao
shao lin suen
shao lin jian
shao lin jian
shao lin qiang
shao lin ying quan
wu xing ba fa
Tai Tsu Chang quan
Lo Han quan
(master wang went on with some others, but i wasn't sure if they were forms or styles as he started doing forms while he was showing them. I basicly got out of him that if it is shaolin, he knows it. Bear in mind that he was a shaolin monk when there were still masters teaching from before the "corruption" and horrible times for shaolin.)
Master Ren He
(He only teaches students that have been here for a year or more)
This teacher wasn't here when i did my research. I have seen him in books on shaolin gong fu since i've been here (that master wang has in his room), gong fu magazines and more. From what i understand he is pretty big in CMA, though i have never heard of him. There is more info on the website.
Master Ren qiang
Sanda (san shou)
He has taught sanda for 21 years.
He also teaches the ren family style gong fu.
Tai ji
Master Wang, Master Ren He - taijiquan
Qi Gong
Master Wang, Master Ren He - shao lin xi ying qi gong
The way it went down was them saying the styles and writing the charicters in chinese, while a classroom teacher transcribed the pinyin. There may have been some mistakes or things lost in translation.
Hope this answers some questions, and raises some new ones.
Thanks!
-Rob
Though I could be wrong... I don't know the names of many mantis forms other than a couple of the more famous ones 
Maybe the "hard" Shaolin qigong (Iron body, iron palm, etc.). Just a guess...
