Hey, the only thing I've ever given birth to is some questionable ideas.
Skipping training out of laziness
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Nothing wrong with my provider - probably just a broken website. Covid shut down my program years ago, and I haven't been bothered to change my signature or do anything with the website.
As for not making sense, I'm sure it doesn't - to you.
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Ha ha ha. Those times in my life are often not my brightest moments lol.
I agree with you but give us a universal, 100% accurate indicator of pain for everyone. You can't because it is different for everyone.
My previous Ortho (retired) said it is by far the hardest thing to diagnose. A boo-boo can elicit the same amount of 'pain' as cutting off a finger for another person.
You are taking the subject Way out of context.
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There are some great thoughts being shared here. Some dubious ones too, but the world is full of all kinds of weird and wonderful happenings.
In gyms there were a great number of men who ignored the pain and ended up being side-lined for extended periods. My job was to advise them on sound exercise practices and the best course of action for them as individuals. I cannot count the number of men who got injured because they failed to take the advice and pushed on just the same. Over and over again I saw the same pattern of behaviour repeated with the same outcomes. Afterwards the guys would say "I wish I'd listened to your advice as I'm in too much pain to train"
I've seen the same thing in martial arts too, especially the competition forms such as karate.
Boxing is another place where the men keep on pushing themselves to the point of injury which can lead to long periods of inaction, or sometimes to a place where they can never train again. One of my old buddies can no longer breathe correctly due to damaged sustained from having his nose busted enough times that it has permanently affected his health - he coaches boxing and tries to advise the youngsters, but they still think they're bulletproof.
It seems some jukeboxes continue to play the same old tunes
In gyms there were a great number of men who ignored the pain and ended up being side-lined for extended periods. My job was to advise them on sound exercise practices and the best course of action for them as individuals. I cannot count the number of men who got injured because they failed to take the advice and pushed on just the same. Over and over again I saw the same pattern of behaviour repeated with the same outcomes. Afterwards the guys would say "I wish I'd listened to your advice as I'm in too much pain to train"
I've seen the same thing in martial arts too, especially the competition forms such as karate.
Boxing is another place where the men keep on pushing themselves to the point of injury which can lead to long periods of inaction, or sometimes to a place where they can never train again. One of my old buddies can no longer breathe correctly due to damaged sustained from having his nose busted enough times that it has permanently affected his health - he coaches boxing and tries to advise the youngsters, but they still think they're bulletproof.
It seems some jukeboxes continue to play the same old tunes
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I try not to!You think so?
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No, I mean this website. It's taking minutes to load but only when I'm logged in. Otherwise it's fast. Weird.
Your post doesn't make sense to me because I was saying "no pain no gain" has nothing to do with training through injury, but at least three people seem to think it is.
People on this site seem to want to talk right past each other. My reading comprehension is strong. I'm wondering why others are struggling.
Training through injury is foolish, but that's not what "soldiering on" or "no pain no gain" even means. And thinking it's some sort of toxic male identity thing ironic, considering how many lives it's saved.
Imagine if we taught our fighters to just give up when the pain starts, for their health. We would all be screwed in that timeline.
Consider the word "martialing". If you've never been martialed, maybe this is alien to you.
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How so? Someone asked had I given birth then I showed real world example of people don't feel pain as a way to show that pain has a purpose and that it's useful. So the next time someone says train through the pain think about it. Maybe listening to the pain is better than pushing through it.
what may be taken as slacking off may be a valid reason to ease up with training.
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Ah come on you don't want a uterus transplant? What could go wrong? Lol
I have enough things wrong with me as it is!
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Lol too bad I'm at work. I feel an Ai picture coming up.
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Are you younger than 45?
Me. And every single Dr I know.
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I'm a doctor, and I disagree with you.
Why did you slow down my login?
What kind of doctor? I’m not attempting to be combative, just curious.
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I was a military surgeon.
Bright light.
Concert noise.
Stomach gas.
Most headaches.
Your calf muscles after leg day.
Specificity theory.
en.m.wikipedia.org
I think I'm talking over peoples heads. None of them seem to understand. Never said my bedside manner was any good but this is pain 101.
Most pain is an illusion, a figment of the mind, unrelated to anything physical, and definitely holds back good training.
Google "phantom pain" if you don't believe me.
I'm not anymore, but I can give examples all day long of these pain is not a signal something is wrong.
Bright light.
Concert noise.
Stomach gas.
Most headaches.
Your calf muscles after leg day.
Specificity theory.
Pain theories - Wikipedia
I think I'm talking over peoples heads. None of them seem to understand. Never said my bedside manner was any good but this is pain 101.
Most pain is an illusion, a figment of the mind, unrelated to anything physical, and definitely holds back good training.
Google "phantom pain" if you don't believe me.
What branch and when, if you don’t mind me asking.I was a military surgeon.
I'm not anymore, but I can give examples all day long of these pain is not a signal something is wrong.
Bright light.
Concert noise.
Stomach gas.
Most headaches.
Your calf muscles after leg day.
Specificity theory.
Pain theories - Wikipedia
I think I'm talking over peoples heads. None of them seem to understand. Never said my bedside manner was any good but this is pain 101.
Most pain is an illusion, a figment of the mind, unrelated to anything physical, and definitely holds back good training.
Google "phantom pain" if you don't believe me.
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I read this and did some research on it and I'm not sure how you think this supports what you are saying. The theory has been discreditied. And if you are referring to Phantom limb pain being all in your mind. Here's what is said about why that happens
What Causes Phantom Pain?:
- The exact cause of phantom limb pain remains somewhat mysterious.
- One possible explanation is that nerves in the spinal cord and brain “rewire” after losing signals from the missing arm or leg.
- As a result, these rewired nerves send pain signals, which is a typical response when the body senses something is wrong
This is a common statement about Specificity Theory:
"while the specificity theory was an early model of pain perception, it has been discredited by empirical evidence and our evolving understanding of pain."
Basically it no longer holds value beyond historical. Which is probably why it's still a Theory. One that was proven incorrect.
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