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BFB:
The main reason of the conquer was the framentation of the country in little kingdoms with a lot of internal problems and the muslim were a united imperium(califato Omeya) with a higher culture (the muslins enter in Spain in a really dark age).
ME:
Fragmentation is one of the main common strategies of war according to Alexander the Great, Sun Tzu, Clausewitz, Genghis Khan and the Romans. That wasn't my point.
My point was that Moors and Spanish tribes fought with BLADED weapons in a time when firearms did NOT exist. Spain divided or not, lost and were defeated by the Moors in battles that had NO firearms.
This is a totally different scenario than what happened in the Philippines. The Philippines as you may or may not know was also fragmentated like Spain was, and the CONQUESTA documents stated in frank terms how to exploit that fragmentation. But Spain used FIREARMS and the pike.
So taking fragmentation out of the discussion, the main fighting weapons during the Moors conquest of Spain were NOT firearms but Bladed weapons.
The main fighting weapons used in the Spanish conquesta of the Philippines were FIREARMS/pikes.
Both scenarios had fragmentation, but ALL wars depend on fragmentation or broken alliances. I'm focusing on the weapons used. Spanish soldiers ADMIT to reliance of the firearm to decide the outcome of battle in the Philippines.
That was NOT the case when the Moors fought the Spanish.
Thus, Spain had to adapt to their enemy- the Moors to defeat them. They had to learn the Moors methods of fighting. Which means Spain's evolvement in the sword was influenced by their conquerors the Moors.
The Moors also influenced the Filipinos, so much so that Spanish soldiers stated Filipinos fought like Moors or Turks.
Hopefully this clears it up.
BFB:
(I understand it from your words, sorry like I said in my other post my english is not very good, I would like to see you trying to expres yourself in my language).
Me:
great.
By the way, You NEVER stated what your native language was... if it is so complex it must be:
Tagalog
--Rafael--
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The main reason of the conquer was the framentation of the country in little kingdoms with a lot of internal problems and the muslim were a united imperium(califato Omeya) with a higher culture (the muslins enter in Spain in a really dark age).
ME:
Fragmentation is one of the main common strategies of war according to Alexander the Great, Sun Tzu, Clausewitz, Genghis Khan and the Romans. That wasn't my point.
My point was that Moors and Spanish tribes fought with BLADED weapons in a time when firearms did NOT exist. Spain divided or not, lost and were defeated by the Moors in battles that had NO firearms.
This is a totally different scenario than what happened in the Philippines. The Philippines as you may or may not know was also fragmentated like Spain was, and the CONQUESTA documents stated in frank terms how to exploit that fragmentation. But Spain used FIREARMS and the pike.
So taking fragmentation out of the discussion, the main fighting weapons during the Moors conquest of Spain were NOT firearms but Bladed weapons.
The main fighting weapons used in the Spanish conquesta of the Philippines were FIREARMS/pikes.
Both scenarios had fragmentation, but ALL wars depend on fragmentation or broken alliances. I'm focusing on the weapons used. Spanish soldiers ADMIT to reliance of the firearm to decide the outcome of battle in the Philippines.
That was NOT the case when the Moors fought the Spanish.
Thus, Spain had to adapt to their enemy- the Moors to defeat them. They had to learn the Moors methods of fighting. Which means Spain's evolvement in the sword was influenced by their conquerors the Moors.
The Moors also influenced the Filipinos, so much so that Spanish soldiers stated Filipinos fought like Moors or Turks.
Hopefully this clears it up.
BFB:
(I understand it from your words, sorry like I said in my other post my english is not very good, I would like to see you trying to expres yourself in my language).
Me:
great.
By the way, You NEVER stated what your native language was... if it is so complex it must be:
Tagalog
--Rafael--
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