Doc
Senior Master
Cut the crap buddy, you understood exactly what I was saying - uh didn't you?
Question about Parker's clock method
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Cut the crap buddy, you understood exactly what I was saying - uh didn't you?
Hell, I did and I'm not a kempoist!
12 o'clock is the point where you start out looking forward. The direction stays constant, but you always stay at the center. So, if you step and turn to 3 o'clock, your left hand is now at 12. If you then step forward, you're still moving in the 3 o'clock direction, but you're keeping that center of the clock with you. You ain't falling off the face of the clock, moving into "wall", in other words.
Seems like a pretty useful approach to describe motions... Lots better than the "north/south" that some people use, or trying to describe a couple of 45 degree turns like this: step diagonally forward to your right, turning to face the direction of the step, then turn 45 degrees to your right again. (Step and face 1:30; turn to 3 o'clock.)
12 o'clock is the point where you start out looking forward. The direction stays constant, but you always stay at the center. So, if you step and turn to 3 o'clock, your left hand is now at 12. If you then step forward, you're still moving in the 3 o'clock direction, but you're keeping that center of the clock with you. You ain't falling off the face of the clock, moving into "wall", in other words.
Seems like a pretty useful approach to describe motions... Lots better than the "north/south" that some people use, or trying to describe a couple of 45 degree turns like this: step diagonally forward to your right, turning to face the direction of the step, then turn 45 degrees to your right again. (Step and face 1:30; turn to 3 o'clock.)
Doc
Senior Master
Taken From the
SubLevel Four Kenpo Glossary of FAQ:
(many questions submitted by Bode)
"Does the clock move in the “Clock” reference concept?"
SubLevel Four Kenpo Glossary of FAQ:
(many questions submitted by Bode)
"Does the clock move in the “Clock” reference concept?"
The answer is a yes, and a no, but most understand correctly “no.” The position of a fixed point doesn’t move persé, but does move somewhat. Keep in mind that positions on the clock are all considered "relative" even when the positions are "fixed." That is, the clock does move, but only relative to the action described within the "Clock Concept." Confusion is generated by students who presume the clock is "totally" fixed, over a "Relative Fixed Position." What most are really asking is "does the clock rotate?" as you move. It does not.
Students misunderstand the term "fixed" as if you put a big clock on the ground and then drove a stake into four corners. If this were true, when you began to move, "relative to the action," 12 o'clock would no longer be in the same place as you move and shift at various angles. Therefore, when you move laterally, the clock doesn't "rotate" but moves with you so 12 o'clock is always in the same "relative" fixed position to you.
What idiot takes the time to write this crap out anyway? After all, everybody understands the clock concept - uh don't they?
IWishToLearn
3rd Black Belt
Taken From the
SubLevel Four Kenpo Glossary of FAQ:
(many questions submitted by Bode)
"Does the clock move in the “Clock” reference concept?"
The answer is a yes, and a no, but most understand correctly “no.” The position of a fixed point doesn’t move persé, but does move somewhat. Keep in mind that positions on the clock are all considered "relative" even when the positions are "fixed." That is, the clock does move, but only relative to the action described within the "Clock Concept." Confusion is generated by students who presume the clock is "totally" fixed, over a "Relative Fixed Position." What most are really asking is "does the clock rotate?" as you move. It does not.
Students misunderstand the term "fixed" as if you put a big clock on the ground and then drove a stake into four corners. If this were true, when you began to move, "relative to the action," 12 o'clock would no longer be in the same place as you move and shift at various angles. Therefore, when you move laterally, the clock doesn't "rotate" but moves with you so 12 o'clock is always in the same "relative" fixed position to you.
What idiot takes the time to write this crap out anyway? After all, everybody understands the clock concept - uh don't they?
"Why?"
Doc
Senior Master
YOU! Go stand next to Bode.
kidswarrior
Senior Master
Only now, Sir, only now.Taken From the
SubLevel Four Kenpo Glossary of FAQ:
(many questions submitted by Bode)
"Does the clock move in the “Clock” reference concept?"
The answer is a yes, and a no, but most understand correctly “no.” The position of a fixed point doesn’t move persé, but does move somewhat. Keep in mind that positions on the clock are all considered "relative" even when the positions are "fixed." That is, the clock does move, but only relative to the action described within the "Clock Concept." Confusion is generated by students who presume the clock is "totally" fixed, over a "Relative Fixed Position." What most are really asking is "does the clock rotate?" as you move. It does not.
Students misunderstand the term "fixed" as if you put a big clock on the ground and then drove a stake into four corners. If this were true, when you began to move, "relative to the action," 12 o'clock would no longer be in the same place as you move and shift at various angles. Therefore, when you move laterally, the clock doesn't "rotate" but moves with you so 12 o'clock is always in the same "relative" fixed position to you.
What idiot takes the time to write this crap out anyway? After all, everybody understands the clock concept - uh don't they?
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