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Goldendragon7
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Just a normal part of life!
Thanks again for your thoughts!
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Thanks again for your thoughts!
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Kenpomachine
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May I ask the moderators to have this thread sticking in the forum?
I find it quite interesting and instructive:asian:
I find it quite interesting and instructive:asian:
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Goldendragon7
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What's on your mind?
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Kirk
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I asked Huk, and he said it's a topic of MANY varying opinions, so
just asking for yours ... how did the name "reverse punch" come
about?
just asking for yours ... how did the name "reverse punch" come
about?
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Goldendragon7
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I already answered that just 5 days ago on another thread.... but here it is again......
http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3295&perpage=15&pagenumber=3
Now do 10 pushups for not paying attention before!!
Circa 1970 it was a "Reverse Punch" and a "Lunge Punch", the only two puches we had. Lunging was usually with lead hand as you steped through into a front stance (although it could be done with the back also.)
The Reverse was only as Dennis Conatser described it.
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-Michael
Kenpo-Texas.com
The Reverse was only as Dennis Conatser described it.
Oss,
-Michael
Kenpo-Texas.com
ikenpo
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Mr. C,
When you started studying with SGM Parker you were already a 3rd Dan/Degree (under the NCKKA). How long did it take you to work back through the system to learn the IKKA version of Kenpo to Black? to 3rd Black? Mr. Duffy mentioned to me that one time he attended a Huk Planas instructor seminar on forms and everything was pretty similar until they got to form Four and up. He said at that point the application of technique was dramatically different from what he had learned in the NCKKA. Did you find that same kind of experience? Also you had students at that time, did you find it easier learning and retaining the info by teaching it? What did you teach, say a Brown belt, while you were learning the first few belts the IKKA way?
jb
When you started studying with SGM Parker you were already a 3rd Dan/Degree (under the NCKKA). How long did it take you to work back through the system to learn the IKKA version of Kenpo to Black? to 3rd Black? Mr. Duffy mentioned to me that one time he attended a Huk Planas instructor seminar on forms and everything was pretty similar until they got to form Four and up. He said at that point the application of technique was dramatically different from what he had learned in the NCKKA. Did you find that same kind of experience? Also you had students at that time, did you find it easier learning and retaining the info by teaching it? What did you teach, say a Brown belt, while you were learning the first few belts the IKKA way?
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ikenpo
Black Belt
Mr. C,
There has been a great deal of discussion about 24 vs 16 tech system. Were you brought up pre-32 or 24 system technique? Or were you under the 24 when you converted over to the IKKA? My question is if you had your choice which would you have preferred? Also if the 16 tech system had existed and you were brought up under it, what differences in your skill level and understand of the system do you think would exist today?
jb
There has been a great deal of discussion about 24 vs 16 tech system. Were you brought up pre-32 or 24 system technique? Or were you under the 24 when you converted over to the IKKA? My question is if you had your choice which would you have preferred? Also if the 16 tech system had existed and you were brought up under it, what differences in your skill level and understand of the system do you think would exist today?
jb
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Goldendragon7
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No, I was a 2nd Degree.
Hell, I'm still learning it!!! LOL, Mr. Parker promoted me to 3rd after 3 years studying with him.
Pretty much, but there were many, many subtle differences throughout all the forms. They may have "looked" the same, but what he showed me within them was dramatically expanded.
Absolutely!
I started at the bottom with Mr. Parker, (in fact I had to make him look at my basics and all the lower rank material..... LOL) I wanted to show him what I had and if it was correct we could move on... if not.... teach me. I wanted to learn his system from the bottom up!
I in turn did the same with all my students (white thru Black) and I students in every belt categories. It was a little hard at first but I managed to explain to them what they were getting and why, Very, very few were disappointed. The result were knowledgeable, skilled and well trained instructors to carry on the Art.
No regrets.
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ikenpo
Black Belt
Mr. C,
I remember us having a discussion about the type of people that take "Karate", and I don't know that it is as true as it once was. Some people actually see it as a form of exercise, but it is true that much of the interest is born out of some form of personal insecurity. My question is what type of person makes for a good student in your opinion? Is it heart? Are there certain attributes? Can you turn a person into a good student? If it is a commercial shop, is a good student one that makes the monthly payments regardless of commitment?
jb
I remember us having a discussion about the type of people that take "Karate", and I don't know that it is as true as it once was. Some people actually see it as a form of exercise, but it is true that much of the interest is born out of some form of personal insecurity. My question is what type of person makes for a good student in your opinion? Is it heart? Are there certain attributes? Can you turn a person into a good student? If it is a commercial shop, is a good student one that makes the monthly payments regardless of commitment?
jb
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Goldendragon7
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I was originally under the 32 system
Definitely the 16
First off, the number of techniques that one learns is not so important as the method/manner in which you are instructed, as well as the skills and knowledge of the person who is actually guiding you. My development came from the leadership of my instructors at various critical times of my journey. In the beginning mental skills were not as important as the physical skills, then as a brown belt competitive and instructional skills were necessary and thus started, then as a black belt the flower further blossomed with deep supporting knowledge which filled in areas that may have been lacking prior. Now, continual research and study is a constant necessity to update or develop newer or greater understanding of the old.
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Goldendragon7
Grandmaster
There are several types of "good students" but in my humble opinion I define one as:
Committed to the Art
Attends regularly
Practices & works hard on what is shown to them
Maintains a positive attitude
Always is interested in what is going on
Helps others when possible
Keeps commitments or arranges for alternatives
Makes measurable progress in reasonable time
These are the main characteristics I look for.
No. I can only assist the student and guide the way, I am not there to force-feed and "make" them do anything. If they are interested, listen, follow my guidance, and do the appreciate practice that is necessary for advancement, they can awaken, make progress, and develop the hidden skills/talents that they already possess within themselves.
NOPE! I have had several students that have either paid in full or make all their payments on time, but are the worst or most disappointing students that I have had. I end up wasting time on wondering where they are or feeling guilty that I'm not giving them their moneys worth. Some of my best students, paid very little money in exchange for "working" for their lessons, they paid with commitment, loyalty and dedication as well as much hard work.... they found that paying me might have been easier.......LOL.
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ikenpo
Black Belt
Mr. C,
Of course we all know that there will never be another, but could the system benefit from a person or persons that is (are) looked to as an Authority and that travels around as much as SGM Parker did? I know that there are several prominant higher ranking belts that have a regular circuit they hit every year, but they only do Kenpo schools primarily. Wouldn't the system be equally served if seminars were held at non-Kenpo schools more often? What made people more accepting (schools and instructors) to do this back in the day verses now?
jb
Of course we all know that there will never be another, but could the system benefit from a person or persons that is (are) looked to as an Authority and that travels around as much as SGM Parker did? I know that there are several prominant higher ranking belts that have a regular circuit they hit every year, but they only do Kenpo schools primarily. Wouldn't the system be equally served if seminars were held at non-Kenpo schools more often? What made people more accepting (schools and instructors) to do this back in the day verses now?
jb
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Goldendragon7
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Of Course!
Sure, but even when Mr. Parker was "on the circuit", the bulk of the studios or groups were Kenpo Based. Very few dis-similar systems had a Kenpo Seminar. Of course there were and are other studios invited to many of the Kenpo Seminars today with the exception of a few, but the material base is and has always been American Kenpo.
Like I said prior, the bulk of the seminars were Kenpo Based but many did invite outside systems to view what we had to offer.
I believe that today, with the many organizations that we have many have become sectional and are smaller over-all and the "Quality of the Promotion" by the host is an issue as well as the state of the economy. Many do not want other systems..... I personally love to have other systems present at my seminars. (I claim bragging rights.... lol!)
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A lot of kenpoists are bringing BJJ into thier kenpo schools, yet
some say that grappling is already built into kenpo, you just gotta
"find it".
So how come no one has created some grappling techniques?
There's no kenpo grappling seminars, or techniques that I've
heard of .. everyone just goes and studies BJJ.
some say that grappling is already built into kenpo, you just gotta
"find it".
So how come no one has created some grappling techniques?
There's no kenpo grappling seminars, or techniques that I've
heard of .. everyone just goes and studies BJJ.
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Goldendragon7
Grandmaster
Your instructor should be able to show you how to manipulate the techniques and open your eyes as to what is there that you don't see yet.
I am guessing that you have been around for quite some time and <know> that "NO ONE" has created Kenpo Grappling Techniques, or are you just saying that you personally have not heard of any from anyone that you personally have talked to?
There are Kenpo Grappling Seminars....... that I know of but they are mostly kept within their respective organizations and not been exploited publicly to any great degree. Buy I agree that you rarely hear of them..... but you will hear more in the future.
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Kirk
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Originally posted by Goldendragon7
I am guessing that you have been around for quite some time and <know> that "NO ONE" has created Kenpo Grappling Techniques, or are you just saying that you personally have not heard of any from anyone that you personally have talked to?
Ah, so we're playing the nit picking game of "technicallity" now,
huh?
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Originally posted by Kirk
Ah, so we're playing the nit picking game of "technicallity" now,
huh?
If I show ya....... I'll have to kill ya.......
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Klondike93
Master Black Belt
Kirk, try to check out a Martin Wheeler seminar if you get the chance. He has some tapes on kenpo ground fighting that I understand from my instructor are very good (they're pretty good friends). He's going to be here in Colorado on March 15 doing a Systema seminar on ground fighting but I'm pretty sure he still does kenpo seminars too.
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