"Prepare for casualties" as new offensive begins in Afghanistan.

[Deaf Smith]

Who is Al Qaeda? Who is a Taliban? To say that we have a loose definition of who these people are is an understatement. We'd basically have to genocide the place if we are going to fit this criteria for winning. Not even Ghengis Khan could do that...

Taliban used to run Afghanistan. I have no doubt their leaders are well known to the U.S. government. They didn't hide. During WW2 we hosted the Free French, and their shadow government declaired war on German.

Al Qaeda? Some guy named Osama bin Laden. Seems he has even gotten on TV alot proclaiming his cause. And his underlings are well known to and have been on TV to. Many of those that work for Osama have been identified.

And idiots like the underwear bomber brag that they are members of Al Qaeda and who am I to object?

These groups declaire war. And their form of war targets civilians on purpose. That is one of the definitions of 'unlawful enemy combatants'.

As for 'The Powerline' Blog. http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/02/025574.php

In 1942, German saboteurs landed on Long Island and in Florida. That they were eventually captured by the FBI did not stop President Franklin Roosevelt from directing that they be treated as unlawful enemy combatants. They were ultimately tried before a military commission in Washington and executed. Their status had nothing to do with who held them, and their treatment was upheld in all respects by the Supreme Court.

This SCOTUS court case was called the Ex Parte Quirin and SCOTUS decided it was quite legal.

So yes we are at war and the enemy does not abide by the rules of war and thus are to not be treated by the same rules as those who signed the conventions.

What happens in Afghanistan will take time. LOTS of time. And Afghanistan does not have to be a mirror image of Iraq. It takes quite a bit of time to turn a feudal system into something more like ours.

Deaf

 

[Bruno@MT]

These groups declaire war. And their form of war targets civilians on purpose. That is one of the definitions of 'unlawful enemy combatants'.

As for 'The Powerline' Blog. http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/02/025574.php

In 1942, German saboteurs landed on Long Island and in Florida. That they were eventually captured by the FBI did not stop President Franklin Roosevelt from directing that they be treated as unlawful enemy combatants. They were ultimately tried before a military commission in Washington and executed. Their status had nothing to do with who held them, and their treatment was upheld in all respects by the Supreme Court.

This SCOTUS court case was called the Ex Parte Quirin and SCOTUS decided it was quite legal.

So yes we are at war and the enemy does not abide by the rules of war and thus are to not be treated by the same rules as those who signed the conventions.

What happens in Afghanistan will take time. LOTS of time. And Afghanistan does not have to be a mirror image of Iraq. It takes quite a bit of time to turn a feudal system into something more like ours.

Deaf

The case you refer to was upheld because they came to your country to commit an act of war. Whether you like it or not: In Afghanistan and Iraq, the US is the occupier and they are in their own home country. they are trying to kick you out. Different scenario, kinda like how various organizations tried to kick the English out of Northern Ireland. They had many US sympathizers too... And of course, the English never left either.

 

[Tez3]

The case you refer to was upheld because they came to your country to commit an act of war. Whether you like it or not: In Afghanistan and Iraq, the US is the occupier and they are in their own home country. they are trying to kick you out. Different scenario, kinda like how various organizations tried to kick the English out of Northern Ireland. They had many US sympathizers too... And of course, the English never left either.

It's always been a great bone of contention just how much support for the terrorists in the form of money and arms came from the Americans.
The Northern Ireland situation has been going on for centuries, it's not settled now there are still terrorist attacks. It's an awful thing to lay on your children, your children's children and their children that you started a war you can't end.

 

[Makalakumu]

It's always been a great bone of contention just how much support for the terrorists in the form of money and arms came from the Americans.

The Northern Ireland situation has been going on for centuries, it's not settled now there are still terrorist attacks. It's an awful thing to lay on your children, your children's children and their children that you started a war you can't end.

People are acting crazy no matter the culture or skin color.