Ouch.

[Ironbear24]

So me and some other students are having fun with randori and a new student with wrestling experience was loving it. She shows much promise, I was told to show her a de ashi barai (foot sweep.)

So I demonstrated it to her and on the way down she had grabbed my lapel along with a chest hair. So yeah rip and that hurt really bad. Good thing I don't have that much there, Chuck Norris must have a high pain tolerance to not even get teary eyed when Bruce Lee ripped his out in return of the dragon.

I think from now on I might wear a tank top or something underneath to help prevent that from happening again.

 

[Tez3]

So me and some other students are having fun with randori and a new student with wrestling experience was loving it. She shows much promise, I was told to show her a de ashi barai (foot sweep.)

So I demonstrated it to her and on the way down she had grabbed my lapel along with a chest hair. So yeah rip and that hurt really bad. Good thing I don't have that much there, Chuck Norris must have a high pain tolerance to not even get teary eyed when Bruce Lee ripped his out in return of the dragon.

I think from now on I might wear a tank top or something underneath to help prevent that from happening again.

Wax on, wax off.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

Ouch, indeed. I usually wear heavy gi tops, and that seems to reduce the chance of this happening.

 

[Tony Dismukes]

Rash guard under the gi top helps a lot.

 

[JR 137]

Or buy a beard trimmer and manscape.

 

[CB Jones]

Or buy a beard trimmer and manscape.

Go with an epilator and build up your pain tolerance.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

Go with an epilator and build up your pain tolerance.

The title of the thread isn't meant to encourage pain, CB.

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

foot sweep ... on the way down she had grabbed my lapel along with a chest hair.

Most MA systems have not paid enough attention into this area yet, "not to be dragged down to the ground when you throw your opponent". If you pay enough attention on where your opponent's hands are, you can prevent it from happening most of the time.

When you apply "foot sweep", you can prevent your opponent from dragging you down by

- Both you and your opponent have right side forward.
- You use left hand to push his leading arm elbow joint to cross his body and jam his back arm.
- You then pull his shoulder (or neck) when you sweep his leading right leg by your left leg.

This way both of your opponent's hands cannot reach you, he cannot drag you down.

 

[JR 137]

Go with an epilator and build up your pain tolerance.

0:43 in says it all.

 

[drop bear]

Take a teaspoon of cement for the hair pain.

Otherwise osotogari unless you are splashing the other person in to the deck is done with the same lifting characteristics as every other lifting.

Good base. Straight back.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

Take a teaspoon of cement for the hair pain.

Otherwise osotogari unless you are splashing the other person in to the deck is done with the same lifting characteristics as every other lifting.

Good base. Straight back.

I think the issue comes when uke (person being thrown) is allowed to fall away, rather than controlled to "down", or when there's an over-commitment to the sweep, and the upper body follows the motion. The latter makes the sweep easier, but definitely makes it easier to get pulled down. Some styles even teach this as the preferred position. I'm okay with it, so long as they're prepared to go to the ground.

 

[drop bear]

I think the issue comes when uke (person being thrown) is allowed to fall away, rather than controlled to "down", or when there's an over-commitment to the sweep, and the upper body follows the motion. The latter makes the sweep easier, but definitely makes it easier to get pulled down. Some styles even teach this as the preferred position. I'm okay with it, so long as they're prepared to go to the ground.

Yeah we just kind of ride them in to the deck. Which can be a bit mean for practice.

We also dont do that throw much.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

Yeah we just kind of ride them in to the deck. Which can be a bit mean for practice.

We also dont do that throw much.

I teach students how to do that, because that's what you do if someone holds on, anyway. And if someone sweeps me, I'm bringing them with me if I can.

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

if someone sweeps me, I'm bringing them with me if I can.

In Chinese wrestling, if you throw your opponent down and

- remain balance, you will get 2 point.
- lose balance, you will get 1 point.

Sometime your opponent tries to drag you down so you will get only 1 point instead of 2. This is why to take your opponent down and prevent him from pulling you down is important.

If you use the following foot sweep, the chance that your opponent can pull you down should be minimum.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

In Chinese wrestling, if you throw your opponent down and

- remain balance, you will get 2 point.
- lose balance, you will get 1 point.

Sometime your opponent tries to drag you down so you will get only 1 point instead of 2. This is why to take your opponent down and prevent him from pulling you down is important.

If you use the following foot sweep, the chance that your opponent can pull you down should be minimum.

Agreed, but that only works from that side. In what I refer to as a "shoulder clinch", osoto gari is what's most commonly available quickly.

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

Agreed, but that only works from that side. In what I refer to as a "shoulder clinch", osoto gari is what's most commonly available quickly.

I thought we are talking about "foot sweep".

 

[Gerry Seymour]

I thought we are talking about "foot sweep".

To me, they are all "leg sweep". We (in NGA) call osoto gari "classical leg sweep", and the one you showed is "front leg sweep".

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

To me, they are all "leg sweep". We (in NGA) call osoto gari "classical leg sweep", and the one you showed is "front leg sweep".

We use different terms here. In Chinese wrestling, the Judo osoto gari is called "cut" which is a complete different category from the category of "sweep".

 

[Gerry Seymour]

We use different terms here. In Chinese wrestling, the Judo osoto gari is called "cut" which is a complete different category from the category of "sweep".

Probably a useful distinction, since there's a pretty different mechanic in use. Since we only have one "official" leg sweep technique, everything else is seen (through that lens) as a variation on that technique. I can think of at least 3 Judo techniques (though the names of all but osoto gari escape me) that we just lump into "leg sweep".