Oh dear... dangers of not testing things

[Andrew Green]

http://russianmartialart.com/catalog/video/clips/S.D..wmv

How co-operative are your training partners when working "Self-defence?"

Obviously this shows an extreme example, but not a uncommon one in a lesser form.

Where's the balance?

 

[Edmund BlackAdder]

I liked the ending. Very DarthDilman like.

 

[Rick Wade]

Oh my I think he has crossed over to the dark side.

V/R

Rick

 

[green meanie]

'Darth Dilman...' :rofl:

 

[Rook]

Perhaps you should have posted this is the systema forum where they could have tried to explain it.

 

[Nemesis]

This is great he can beat up a guy without even touching him!
Now seriosly! Who does this guy thinks he's fooling?

 

[Kacey]

It did look a little... well... too practiced! That, or we have the next Yoda on our hands!

 

[Rick Wade]

This is great he can beat up a guy without even touching him!
Now seriosly! Who does this guy thinks he's fooling?

All of the guys standing around watching him.

V/R

Rick

 

[MJS]

http://russianmartialart.com/catalog/video/clips/S.D..wmv

How co-operative are your training partners when working "Self-defence?"

Obviously this shows an extreme example, but not a uncommon one in a lesser form.

Where's the balance?

When first learning a technique, regardless of what art it is, things should begin at a slow pace, with a gradual build up of resistance, speed, etc. This will allow for a good understanding of the movements, fine points, etc.

I know nothing about Systema, but the 'attackers' seemed as if they were being overly co-operative.

Mike

 

[James Patrick]

cool....now i know why we won the cold war...

 

[James Patrick]

How co-operative are your training partners when working "Self-defence?"

Not very when we train. We use cooperation to learn the skills, then we work them with resistance.

 

[Bob Hubbard]

Interesting. Would like to see it in context though.

 

[Carol]

Practiced or not, I wish my shoulder rolls looked that good

 

[Andrew Green]

I wish my throws worked like that

 

[Rich Parsons]

Perhaps you should have posted this is the systema forum where they could have tried to explain it.

It is systema.

I have not trained in this martial art.

I have worked with a couple who have. I have talked to them as well.

If you do not go with the energy then you get struck and get hurt. So people learn to go with the flow of the energy.

Not defending just commenting.

 

[MJS]

If you do not go with the energy then you get struck and get hurt. So people learn to go with the flow of the energy.

Good point. Looking at the clip, alot of it reminds me of Aikido. Same idea of 'going with' the throws to avoid injury.

 

[Andrew Green]

No... this is just silly. Twisting a stick someone is holding does not require them to go flying in a perfect flip to avoid injury no matter how good you are at twisting your stick...

 

[Rich Parsons]

No... this is just silly. Twisting a stick someone is holding does not require them to go flying in a perfect flip to avoid injury no matter how good you are at twisting your stick...

Andrew while I agree with your comment what you do not see is that if they do not avoid the stick in a manner to also avoid being thrown then they either get hit (* Hard *) or they go with the energy.

One thought is while in a joint lock you move yourself to another one to remove the pressure the opponent has control over. Unfortunately, for the guy explaining it to me I was able to flow with him and keep control and switch which joint had the lock. Agreed he was not a top Systema guy and I have never played with one, so I cannto say on that.

 

[green meanie]

No... this is just silly. Twisting a stick someone is holding does not require them to go flying in a perfect flip to avoid injury no matter how good you are at twisting your stick...

Agreed. :asian:

 

[Edmund BlackAdder]

I understand why they are doing it. It is just, when you don't know, or understand, it really looks bad.