Muhammad cartoon

[jazkiljok]

for more thoughts on the subject.

http://www.slate.com/id/2135917/

 

[Edmund BlackAdder]

What is often forgotten is that the Middle East is oft fond of living well in the past. Many parties there are holding to grudges dating back years, often centuries. I find it unremarkable that they are so upset over a few cartoons. Sad, but, not unusual.

 

[sgtmac_46]

What is often forgotten is that the Middle East is oft fond of living well in the past. Many parties there are holding to grudges dating back years, often centuries. I find it unremarkable that they are so upset over a few cartoons. Sad, but, not unusual.

They still invoke the crusades as a common grudge. That's been a thousand years.....now that's what I call holding a grudge.

Kind of hard to reason with people who hold a grudge about something that happened centuries before.

I do note, with interest however, that the cartoon controversy has bumped the US off some of the top-10 slogans spouted in the Islamic world. “Down! Down with France! Down! Down with Israel,” http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11269770/

 

[Blotan Hunka]

http://www.shopmetrospy.com/

Get them while their hot!

 

[sgtmac_46]

http://www.shopmetrospy.com/

Get them while their hot!

That would go along nicely with my 'The Infidel' t-shirt. (I think i'm gonna get an 'I'm with the Infidel ->' t-shirt for my girlfriend). They're cool, they're funny.....just don't wear them unarmed on some parts of the planet.

 

[SAVAGE]

They have a right to be angry...we all live in different cultures...but how is angry going to change what is done!

 

[FearlessFreep]

They still invoke the crusades as a common grudge. That's been a thousand years.....now that's what I call holding a grudge.

For what it's worth, I've heard that the difference between Americans and Europeans is that Americans think 100 years is a long time and Europeans think 100 miles is a long distance

 

[sgtmac_46]

They still invoke the crusades as a common grudge. That's been a thousand years.....now that's what I call holding a grudge.

For what it's worth, I've heard that the difference between Americans and Europeans is that Americans think 100 years is a long time and Europeans think 100 miles is a long distance

hehe...that's probably pretty accurate.

 

[Blotan Hunka]

http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/4701/17_Year_Old_Girl_Sentenced_To_Death_By_Hanging

Tehran, Iran, Jan. 07 – An Iranian court has sentenced a teenage rape victim to death by hanging after she weepingly confessed that she had unintentionally killed a man who had tried to rape both her and her niece.

Maybe the differences are too wide to bridge. How do "we" (Westerners) reconcile with stuff like this?

 

[Andrew Green]

Iran has decided to boycott the World Ashihara Karate Championship, due on April 15-16, over Prophet Mohammad cartoons, Cabarpur Huseyni, spokesman of the Iranian Karate Federation said.

He also reported that Iran was planning to send 20 karateists to this championship.

http://www.azertag.com/en/index.sht...mes_viewing=&themes_page=&themeid=&news_page=

 

[arnisador]

Meanwhile, Danish pastries must now be referred to as Roses of Muhammed...but unlike Freedom Fries, this isn't just a suggestion.

 

[Flatlander]

The United Church of Canada has weighed in on the side of Islamic protesters, slamming recent reprintings of the cartoons in Canadian publications.

Reference this news article.

I'm having difficulty understanding how the United Church believes that this support will be taken seriously by Muslim leaders... are the two religions not irreconcilable?

Further, I condemn the United Church for their position. They, quite frankly, are wrong. The purpose of reprinting the cartoon was not to incite racial or religious hatred, it was to show solidarity with journalists of other free nations, and to provide context for the debate. How can Canadians formulate an opinion on the matter without being shown the damn evidence?

Lunacy.

 

[Ping898]

article

Cleric: $1 Million to Kill Cartoonist
PESHAWAR, Pakistan - A Pakistani cleric announced Friday a $1 million bounty for killing a cartoonist who drew Prophet Muhammad, as thousands joined street protests and Denmark temporarily closed its embassy and advised its citizens to leave the country.
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In the northwestern Pakistan city of Peshawar, prayer leader Mohammed Yousaf Qureshi announced the bounty for killing a cartoonist to about 1,000 people outside the Mohabat Khan mosque.

Qureshi said the mosque and his religious school would give $25,000 and a car, while a local jewelers' association would give another $1 million. No representative of the association was available to confirm it had made the offer.

"This is a unanimous decision by all imams (prayer leaders) of Islam that whoever insults the prophet deserves to be killed and whoever will take this insulting man to his end, will get this prize," Qureshi said.

it keeps getting better and better....

 

[Makalakumu]

Sometimes really weird things precipitate all our war. Does anyone see that possibility here?

 

[Martial Tucker]

Sometimes really weird things precipitate all our war. Does anyone see that possibility here?

I see this whole conflict as simply a battle between principles of freedom vs. those of repression. A common denominator in many wars.

 

[Simon Curran]

As someone who lives in Denmark, and saw the sketches when they were originally published way back in September, I do not believe this is an issue of religion, but rather of differences in humour.
Stuff like this is printed all the time in Danish newspapers, they are free to do so, and will continue to do so, since this is the nature of the Danish humour.
It is not for others to judge a nation based upon individual opinions, no matter how unsavoury they may appear to others.
Some have stated that the drawings were in bad taste, but what is bad taste to some is just plain hilarious to others.
I personally do not feel that JP (the newspaper who originally published the drawings) owe anybody an apology. The way things are in this country, if you find something offensive, then you are free to look the other way, this is no different than the Danish attitude towards for example porn, there are still those who do not like it, but no-one is forcing them to look at it.
The policy of law is such in this country that publishers are free to publish whatever they see fit (within the bounds of national security), I saw the drawings and laughed, as did many others.
They have since published an apology in English, Danish and Arabic, but that seems to have been over looked by those who would seek to make a mountain of a mole hill.
This is Denmark, not a radical muslim country, and we are free to believe whatever we choose, we are also free to dictate national policy internally, we do not need other's permission.
Simon

 

[FearlessFreep]

This is Denmark, not a radical muslim country, and we are free to believe whatever we choose, we are also free to dictate national policy internally, we do not need other's permission.

The problem seems to come when such a culture comes up against a culture that has no such tolerance.

 

[Kenpoist]

I think a majority of what you see in the media are people who are purposefully being used, like puppets, by their oppressive regime governments. The cartoon is just an excuse. If these people were to protest about local issues of being starved and persecuted, they would all be beaten and killed by their leaders. This is just a chance to let off some steam, at the will of their government - which achieves the government’s political objectives. My understanding is these cartoons came out last year and are just now getting so much attention. The Islmasist's are going to use any tool necessary to undermine the Western World and turn their people against the United States, in particular. The protestors, for the most part are ignorant, uneducated people.
That is why, WE, the Western world, need to give these people a chance at FREEDOM (like in Iraq), so they will have the will to rise up against their dictator’s and strive for something better.

 

[Xequat]

I just heard on the radio yesterday that some cleric in Pakistan has now offered a one-million dollar hit on the Danish cartoonist. Is it really worth a millions dollars, and if this SOB has a million to spend on something to support Islam, how about building a school or something? Is that really the best use for a million dollars? Man, if I were the cartoonist, I'd figure I'm already a target, so I'm going to make it worth my while and start drawing cartoons of Muhammed screwing a donkey, then maybe another man on a donkey, then maybe eating a Sausage McMuffin. Actually, maybe he could draw those up and lock them away and let it be known that if anything ever happens to him, THEN those cartoons will be published and more rioting and death among Muslims themselves and destruction of their property will ensue from the new batch of rioting lunatics. What a mess. Is it really worth it? I mean, if I'm a really devout Christian and I see some jerk from, say Belgium, draw an offensive cartoon about Jesus, I don't start rioting and change the name of Belgian waffles to Jesus' Square Breakfast Loaf or something stupid like that, I'm just going to let God deal with him or argue with someone at worst. Funny how many people think they're actually speaking for God (or Allah).