Monkey

[monkey]

I respect What your are saying or not wanting to say.Others have seen
What I did matched Rem(example the low spins & foot work-the pity paty drill-the 4 count drill-the empty hand w/ some Ernestos style influance-the figure 8 drill to state a few )Thats six there--sure i clipped a little JKD-Sure I clipped a little of Ernestos ways & Yes I mix to fit my needs to
Not only perform but,inovate myself to the art,
I stated befor it is basic stuff--no advanced filmed---
no pro shot just 1 camera by some unknown & unskilled in telecom.

I understand were you stated it looks like modern arnis but, could be differant.Well I did send Mr Hubbard a tape of Remy doing the low spins &
defence & why its done--also some defence "as I demoed"---
This also had footage of Ernesto doing "what I displayed."
Here in is the proof & it can be viewed if Mr Hubbord lets it out.I am
showing that I can do the art--some little changes-(each will do that)
Theres no way for a man 6'4" to move like a man 4'5".Each has own attributes.
I did state right after your break down --'Thank you.' I also told what each was ---I was there & I did it so I am qualified to exsplain what is shown & at
What level.Thanks agian for your responce...


Its not the praise that I want to here but that which isnt so It can be great & excepted by all "J.W.L" 1964

 

[Nevada_MO_Guy]

http://martialtalk.com/videos/tomcarnes1.mov 26.2MB

Just finished watching the first video....wow Tom, you sure have a lot of patches and things.

One patch that stood out was Dole Pares (I think...it might have been Doce Pares) Cebu City Phillippines 1932.

My question is what is the 1932 for....was that the year you got the patch?

 

[monkey]

The Conete doce pares was an art that Mamo Conyete founded.
I beleave it was founded around that time.Mamoy has some " kuntaou type" -- actions then to finish his "judo type" would throw the attacker
many feet.
Let me tell of 1 of many that depicts how Mamoy used it.
His espada y daga has gone against many real live death matches;
hence this is one of the teaching of his art(This will differ from Cacoy
as Cacoy did more balintawak type responce.)As the attacker enters-
Mamoy would defang the serpant/snake.From there He would lock them in a cross arm & thrash a bit.Then going to the side just slightly--he would kick right behind the knee--
This would bring the attacker into the daga.From there he did a slide step & threw the attacker like the garbage he was.
I was given the patch after compleating my sklills "for intructor level" &
that certificate is displayed on the video.It is part of the orginisation for representaion for the art.

 

[crushing]

monkey, It looks like you are correct that 1932 was when Doce Pares was founded. I would be extremely impressed if that is when you got the patch.

http://www.doceparesinternational.com/index.htm
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=active&q=Doce+Pares+1932
http://www.eskrima-deutschland.de/html/eskrima/geschichte.html
http://www.docepares.net/dphistory.html

 

[Swordlady]

monkey, It looks like you are correct that 1932 was when Doce Pares was founded. I would be extremely impressed if that is when you got the patch.

http://www.doceparesinternational.com/index.htm
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=active&q=Doce+Pares+1932
http://www.eskrima-deutschland.de/html/eskrima/geschichte.html
http://www.docepares.net/dphistory.html

Impossible. Monkey stated in another post that he is 55 years old (or at least in his 50s). He would have to be at least 90 years old today if he indeed got a patch back in 1932.

 

[crushing]

Impossible. Monkey stated in another post that he is 55 years old (or at least in his 50s). He would have to be at least 90 years old today if he indeed got a patch back in 1932.

That's exactly why I would have been so impressed.

:asian:

 

[monkey]

I understand some of you feek you still have to make fun of diabled people!!!!

Thats so funny A disable army vet that has a hard time communacting via computor.
Note I did not in the video display such.The point was made & they horoed & learnd!!!

Even with only basic stuff show--The skill of the art is there---
Even with 1 camera (Not filmed bky me --but amiture non skilled in
telecom) The point of skills were still shown!!!
Besides that --Lets make fun of the disabled person --we 100 % & we are better then all else.
We wont talk of any possable skills --that would grant him authinticity & make us look bad.
We are 100% so lets try by all means to confuse & try to alter & tell him he knows nothing.
He dis abled & not to computor savey--So That mean all will beleave us when we post red.

Well lots stated I have good thred-& post & getting a bad rep for no resogn.Ive seen the post reps. Only a few repeat to try to defame & the good one confirm what I say.

 

[MJS]

I understand some of you feek you still have to make fun of diabled people!!!!

Thats so funny A disable army vet that has a hard time communacting via computor.
Note I did not in the video display such.The point was made & they horoed & learnd!!!

Even with only basic stuff show--The skill of the art is there---
Even with 1 camera (Not filmed bky me --but amiture non skilled in
telecom) The point of skills were still shown!!!
Besides that --Lets make fun of the disabled person --we 100 % & we are better then all else.

Tom,

Chill out dude! I didn't see anyone making fun of you, but instead, asking simply when you got the patch.

As always, if you feel that there is a problem with a post, use the RTM (Report To Mod) feature. Its that little red triangle in the right hand corner. In addition, you can also put someone on 'ignore' if you do not wish to read their posts.

I think you may have misread what was being asked.

Mike

 

[monkey]

I understand some of you feel you still have to make fun of diabled people!!!!

Thats so funny! " A disable army vet that has a hard time communacting via computor."
Note ---I did not in the video display such on the video.The point was made & they horoed & learnd!!!

Even with only basic stuff show--The skill of the art is there---
Even with 1 camera (Not filmed by me --but a begginer & non skilled in
telecom) The point of skills were still shown!!!
Besides that --Lets make fun of the disabled person --we 100 % & we are better then all else.
We will tell him hes unskilled & his ranks not excepted so.
He has to train from us.We are right & will follow his post & mark red --Hopeless-- so others will see we are right.
No --- you are wrong --others have spoken on the reputaion --I looked--
they agree I dont get treated well or even any attempt to try to understand.

They agreed I have good & intelligent post..Its on the reputaion..only a few from the great monkey occult summoning & some from Datu. Other then that
I have good report I post well & very intellegent.

 

[MJS]

Well, maybe its just me, but I don't see how someone asking when a patch was received is deemed making fun of someone.:idunno:

 

[monkey]

Its the next post after that stateing or trying to state If he claims he was there
that would make him 90 & then Ive got him for yet another lie & can explote that.
I have no problem wtih asking about the patch I told of the time it was ment for
it conception of the art.
He confirmed that I was right & poster URLs that suport "what I said."

Then the post came on for that would be amazing.
I am chilled.I only took offence to that would be amazing!
I am also very intellegent & know when some was condescending
on their intent.
I know I can block out--if I did that --then here they are free to
speak snide remarks & get no honest feed back from a highly skilled & intelegent person they see as intellectualy inferior.
Since the put point of fact I made a correct statement.

 

[MJS]

Its the next post after that stateing or trying to state If he claims he was there
that would make him 90 & then Ive got him for yet another lie & can explote that.
I have no problem wtih asking about the patch I told of the time it was ment for
it conception of the art.
He confirmed that I was right & poster URLs that suport "what I said."

Then the post came on for that would be amazing.
I am chilled.I only took offence to that would be amazing!
I am also very intellegent & know when some was condescending
on their intent.
I know I can block out--if I did that --then here they are free to
speak snide remarks & get no honest feed back from a highly skilled & intelegent person they see as intellectualy inferior.
Since the put point of fact I made a correct statement.

A simple misunderstanding Tom. This happens all the time of forums. The question was asked "What is 1932?" Another poster states that it appears to be the date in which Doce Pares was founded. I don't think anyone was making fun of you, just stating that you have said in other posts that you're in your 50's, so that if you did get the patch in '32, that you'd be older than what you're saying.

Again, no need to jump the gun and start yelling at people, it was a simple misunderstanding!

A question that I asked, was, when did you receive the patch? I'm asking a simple question Tom, not trying to cause a problem. I don't see what the big deal is about telling someone when you got it.

Mike

 

[monkey]

Then Let me
exspress a humble & regretfull apology.
I felt the remark as to "That would be amazing " to be a lie thing

I can see now what your are saying & if I was there in the 30s Yes then it would be amaising & dangerous time.
I met Mamoy & he often talk of his family & students getting
jumped & in knife fights.

 

[Kembudo-Kai Kempoka]

Then Let me
exspress a humble & regretfull apology.
I felt the remark as to "That would be amazing " to be a lie thing

I can see now what your are saying & if I was there in the 30s Yes then it would be amaising & dangerous time.
I met Mamoy & he often talk of his family & students getting
jumped & in knife fights.

Let me start by saying, I mean you no disrespect in this post. I am always willing to cut anybody as much slack as they need to make themselves at home; everybody is just where they are. I have no desire to fraud-bust; I am not connected to the Modern Arnis community, and so have no agenda to promote, defend, or defile.

That being said...I have no friggin' idea what you're talking about half the time, or where some of the ideas that seem to emerge from your head, half baked, come from. I think it is always unfortunate when someone is targeted on these boards for kicks and giggles. But some of the criticisms leveled towards you regarding clearer communication might have some merit. Just a thought from an observer.

Regards,

Dave

 

[monkey]

Thank you Dave ;
I undertand--but misscommunacation--

or misspelled words that I have seen others do as well.

Dosent or shouldnt merit that person being called
Hopeless & targeted for such.

If they were truely Instructors---They would have seen a problem
& show in verious ways how to better.

Noteing a person hopeless on a national site & not realy
given a fair shot --due to what ever.

This is what others noticed & stated.My reputaion posts show what threds I did & who posted what for rateing..
I had a lot stippulating Im intelegent & did nt get a fair shake.

I respect your information & I thank you again.
If you can view the reputation--setting aside the 3 from the Great monkey summoning occult crap.

Youll see that I make realy good posts.


yet some still come on & say we gave you a fair chance & you lied!

 

[Blotan Hunka]

Perhaps the man is semi-literate and we should give him a little break.

 

[monkey]

Thank you sir;

I could use a little.
Let me be as so kind to share a bit of historical documented info.
I stated this earlyer in my bio & else were & now I found 1 of many
supoting the facts I stated on
Modern Arnis.

This is the URL & for history only;Note on the save it show e after article but some times dont save
Dose any one know why? I did twice so if it comes out make sure the is an e after article.

http://www.cfwenterprises.com/article.asp?s=cfw&content-id=3229

Thank you agian for the generous bit of slack.

 

[monkey]

Try going to the moder anris bio

the URL works over there I
dont understand why it dose not
on this post I apologise for any difficulties!

Thanks

 

[Jimi]

That is a cool patch Monkey, I am just as curious as others, what year did you recieve that patch? I don't have one. PEACE

 

[monkey]

Mamoy granted me rights to carry it in 1978 while I was in Cube.
I had a brife time with him & the rest with Cacoy & Deoney.
Mamoy gave me the 1970 b/w archive film & 80 of all the Brothers at 1 time.
Oh I figured out why the URL didnt work I hit - & It shloud be _


So if youd be so kind here is the Modern Arnis history URL

As I have stated http:www.cfwenterprises.com/article.asp?s=cfw&content_id=3229

Sorry for the miss dash. this should do it...