Modify your class to meet your student's need

[Kung Fu Wang]

If a student comes to you and wants to learn how to fight against MMA guys in MMA gym. He is not interested in learning your complete MA system. He just wants to learn how to use few effective entering strategies, changes the striking game into a wrestling game, and takes his opponent down ASAP.

How will you modify your class to meet your student's need? Your thought?

 

[Robert Agar-Hutton]

I'd suggest to any instructor that it's an opportunity to say - no, we don't do that in class but I can teach you that in private lessons.

 

[drop bear]

Do MMA.

 

[pdg]

Do MMA.

You're getting so lucky recently with all these being handed to you - might as well be gift-wrapped and presented with a ceremony.

Who are you paying???

 

[Gerry Seymour]

If a student comes to you and wants to learn how to fight against MMA guys in MMA gym. He is not interested in learning your complete MA system. He just wants to learn how to use few effective entering strategies, changes the striking game into a wrestling game, and takes his opponent down ASAP.

How will you modify your class to meet your student's need? Your thought?

If he wants to fight MMA, I’d suggest an MMA coach. If it’s an MMA guy who’s looking to explore and see if he can find some new tools (already has a coach, etc.), I’d offer private lessons.

 

[drop bear]

You're getting so lucky recently with all these being handed to you - might as well be gift-wrapped and presented with a ceremony.

Who are you paying???

Sacrificing virgins to the gods.

(And by virgins I mean ninjas)

 

[Dirty Dog]

Sacrificing virgins to the gods.

(And by virgins I mean ninjas)

Both can be pretty difficult to find.

 

[Headhunter]

Tell them to go to an Mma gym. If you're not teaching Mma then you shouldn't be forced to teach something you don't teach. At the end of the day it's your club and your choice

 

[Flying Crane]

If a student comes to you and wants to learn how to fight against MMA guys in MMA gym. He is not interested in learning your complete MA system. He just wants to learn how to use few effective entering strategies, changes the striking game into a wrestling game, and takes his opponent down ASAP.

How will you modify your class to meet your student's need? Your thought?

I would not teach anybody who just wanted a few tricks, for whatever reason. It does not work that way. I would have nothing to offer him.

Nobody needs to learn the entire system in order to be effective. I certainly have not learned the entire system.

But in order to be effective with it, one needs to understand the foundation and how it works, and needs to have given enough effort to develop some actual skill with that knowledge. Tricks don’t work well without a foundation.

 

[skribs]

If a student comes to you and wants to learn how to fight against MMA guys in MMA gym. He is not interested in learning your complete MA system. He just wants to learn how to use few effective entering strategies, changes the striking game into a wrestling game, and takes his opponent down ASAP.

How will you modify your class to meet your student's need? Your thought?

"I have 20 other students in this class alone, who are here to learn our system. How can I justify modifying my class to meet your needs, when it doesn't meet the needs of the rest of the class?"

There's an MMORPG I used to play that had a $15/month fee. And people who would cause problems would say "it's my $15/month, I can play how I want." But for the other 24 people in the group, it was their $360/month that was being held up for that one person.

Same thing applies here.

 

[dvcochran]

I would not teach anybody who just wanted a few tricks, for whatever reason. It does not work that way. I would have nothing to offer him.

Nobody needs to learn the entire system in order to be effective. I certainly have not learned the entire system.

But in order to be effective with it, one needs to understand the foundation and how it works, and needs to have given enough effort to develop some actual skill with that knowledge. Tricks don’t work well without a foundation.

Agree. I could also it leading to a reputation issue. If the person trains with you thinking they are learning a few tricks and then gets trampled in their next MMA match and then starts saying what they learned from you is crap, well you see where I am going.
Honestly, the OP's initial doesn't make a lot of sense. Just say no or explain that your class is what it is. They should be welcome if they understand they are expected to the curriculum like everybody else.
@Kung Fu Wang, Conversely, are you wondering if YOU may learn something from them? If so, then I too would consider doing is a private lessons. It would be easier for both of you.

 

[Tony Dismukes]

This is exactly the sort of thing that private lessons are for.

 

[Danny T]

If a student comes to you and wants to learn how to fight against MMA guys in MMA gym. He is not interested in learning your complete MA system. He just wants to learn how to use few effective entering strategies, changes the striking game into a wrestling game, and takes his opponent down ASAP.

How will you modify your class to meet your student's need? Your thought?

You're in luck we have a MMA class. Take that and it will meet your needs.

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

You're in luck we have a MMA class. Take that and it will meet your needs.

Do you teach your MMA class differently from your regular class?

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

@Kung Fu Wang, Conversely, are you wondering if YOU may learn something from them? If so, then I too would consider doing is a private lessons. It would be easier for both of you.

I have a small class. All my guys like to test their skill in MMA gym. Every class, they will tell me what problems that they have to solve in MMA gym. I try to help them to find solution. I don't help them on the ground game, they will get their ground game information from other instructors. Their "short term goal" are to be able to do well in MMA gym.

Their question can be as simple as "How to move in to obtain a clinch in a kick/punch environment?". Since this is also my current interest. I don't have problem to spend a great deal amount of class time to work on "entering strategy" only.

 

[drop bear]

Sacrificing virgins to the gods.

(And by virgins I mean ninjas)

Not at a ninjitsu school.

 

[MetalBoar]

I think this varies depending on the situation. Even for a long term student, if it's a large, formal class with a fairly rigid curriculum the instructor may not have time to deviate from or expand on the lesson plan, and that's probably for the best if most of the students like things as they are being done. Private lessons would probably be most appropriate in a case like this. If the person asking for the lessons isn't a student at the school, again, I agree that they should either join the school and learn the system and/or pay for private lessons. If it's a small school that allows for a fair amount of individual attention or a lot of the class is interested, I think it's great if the instructor can address the interests and concerns of the existing students and show how their system can be applied to an MMA setting or self defense, or whatever it is their students want to learn.

It sounds like Kung Fu Wang is focusing on how his art can help his students meet their goals and teaching a great class!

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

In MMA gym, people have gloves on. My main concern is I don't mind to be in the gloves environment 20 years ago. But today, I'm quite tired of going back to the gloves environment.

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

If you are a Judo (or self-defense) instructor, when your students test their Judo (or self-defense) skill in MMA gym, they will complain that all the set up that you have taught them won't work with gloves. What will you do then?

 

[Danny T]

Do you teach your MMA class differently from your regular class?

I'm not certain I understand your question.
Our mma class Is A Regular Class. Now, the curriculum is different from the Wing Chun class and is different from the Muay Thai class, and is different from the Kali class and the goals of the classes are different so, Yes it is taught differently.