McGregor vs Khabib

[_Simon_]

The matching for the big promotions should be two opponents with really good skills in everything, makes for an exciting fight with tactics coming into play. However the UFC's aim is to make money so it's the fighters who are the most controversial/hated/loved etc that are matched.
People don't seem to watch the UFC to watch good techniques etc they come to watch 'their guy' win and the guy they love to hate lose. Just like WWE but with real strikes.

Hey! WWE is real! Shoulda seen a few weeks ago... Samoa Joe did his rear naked choke on AJ Styles, and AJ Styles tapped out viciously, wowza that must've hurt! BUT AJ was pinning Joe at the SAME TIME! So it was VERY controversial, as it was... "1... 2.... (AJ taps out).. 3!!!" But the referee didn't see him tap out......

 

[Headhunter]

IMO a good grappler will best a striker.

Depends on the grappler and depends on the striker

 

[JR 137]

Hey! WWE is real! Shoulda seen a few weeks ago... Samoa Joe did his rear naked choke on AJ Styles, and AJ Styles tapped out viciously, wowza that must've hurt! BUT AJ was pinning Joe at the SAME TIME! So it was VERY controversial, as it was... "1... 2.... (AJ taps out).. 3!!!" But the referee didn't see him tap out......

I was way more angry when I found out the WWF was fake than I was when I found out about Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, et al. Not even close.

 

[Tez3]

I was way more angry when I found out the WWF was fake than I was when I found out about Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, et al. Not even close.

The World Wildlife Fund is pretty real, does a good job too. Been going since 1961.
WWF - Endangered Species Conservation | World Wildlife Fund

 

[JR 137]

The World Wildlife Fund is pretty real, does a good job too. Been going since 1961.
WWF - Endangered Species Conservation | World Wildlife Fund

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They’re the “other” WWF to me. Their work wasn’t anywhere near as important to 8 year old me as Hulk Hogan, Iron Sheik, et al.

 

[ShotoNoob]

Rener and Ryron have thoughts on the matter.

Towards the end they express some opinions on the value of TMA vs MMA.

I luv how BJJ perpetually concludes it's superiority as a martial art, by using MMA examples where the striking is mediocre to horrible. And please, stop quoting Royce Gracie's 'success.' Matt Hughes, a wrestler, flattened him like a pancake.

 

[ShotoNoob]

Rener and Ryron have thoughts on the matter.
[vid omitted]
Towards the end they express some opinions on the value of TMA vs MMA.

There has been so much faulting of TMA by the MMA business machine... the competitors & coaches of course on board. If TMA striking is so wanting, why don't they suit up in karate gi's and show us so in another venue.

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MMA buffs can skip all that 'performance art' and go to the 2nd half.

 

[Tez3]

8 year old me

8? flipping heck you're younger than my son!

 

[_Simon_]

I was way more angry when I found out the WWF was fake than I was when I found out about Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, et al. Not even close.

Yep, totally understandable!

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They’re the “other” WWF to me. Their work wasn’t anywhere near as important to 8 year old me as Hulk Hogan, Iron Sheik, et al.

Haha too right!

 

[TMA17]

The UFC has lost a lot of my interest over the years. Styles make fights and this fight was of greater interest to me due to the grappler vs striker element.

 

[drop bear]

The UFC has lost a lot of my interest over the years. Styles make fights and this fight was of greater interest to me due to the grappler vs striker element.

You still see it. You just see this little snippets.

 

[Tez3]

The UFC has lost a lot of my interest over the years. Styles make fights and this fight was of greater interest to me due to the grappler vs striker element.

The interest is in the matchmaking. The point of MMA fights is that they are between two MMA fighters who can use all techniques. The fighters make the fights, the 'physical chess' game played between them. their ability to switch to ground or striking not one or the other, they should also be able to strike on the ground and grapple standing. So they should be equally good at stand up and groundwork, if they aren't they're not MMA fighters. Pitching a striker versus a grappler isn't MMA, it's old fashioned UFC and frankly boring.

 

[Headhunter]

Nor related to this thread but interesting seen this on twitter. Would be w big thing for British Mma

Harry Williams on Twitter

 

[Tez3]

Nor related to this thread but interesting seen this on twitter. Would be w big thing for British Mma

Harry Williams on Twitter

How do you work out that it would be a 'big thing' ie 'good' for UK MMA? It's very sad news if true.

 

[Headhunter]

How do you work out that it would be a 'big thing' ie 'good' for UK MMA? It's very sad news if true.

No I said big as in big

 

[Buka]

Rener and Ryron have thoughts on the matter.

Towards the end they express some opinions on the value of TMA vs MMA.

I could listen to those kids all day.

 

[TMA17]

The interest is in the matchmaking. The point of MMA fights is that they are between two MMA fighters who can use all techniques. The fighters make the fights, the 'physical chess' game played between them. their ability to switch to ground or striking not one or the other, they should also be able to strike on the ground and grapple standing. So they should be equally good at stand up and groundwork, if they aren't they're not MMA fighters. Pitching a striker versus a grappler isn't MMA, it's old fashioned UFC and frankly boring.

You are right, and you can't be in the UFC if you don't know both at a pretty high level. In this particular fight though, it was a extremely high level grappler with subpar striking vs a very good striker and subpar grappler. So it had that dynamic which was a draw.

 

[Tez3]

You are right, and you can't be in the UFC if you don't know both at a pretty high level. In this particular fight though, it was a extremely high level grappler with subpar striking vs a very good striker and subpar grappler. So it had that dynamic which was a draw.

I don't think it was particularly their fighting skills which was the draw rather the circus that surrounded them.

 

[marques]

IMO a good grappler will best a striker.

Maia vs Silva.

But I tend to agree. Wrestling is central in MMA, either to go to the ground or to avoid it.

 

[Tez3]

No I said big as in big

Not really, they haven't been relevant for a while but it's always sad to see people go out of business. CW has always been the promotion that people go on to go further.