McCain & Party... Don't Do It!!

[CuongNhuka]

I really get upset and scared with the current rhetoric of the democrats where the government is going to take care of you and be controlling many of the things we need in life (health care is a good example) I think health care needs to be exessable to everyone, but I really dont think that the government are the right people to provide it to us. And the democrats ideas of higher taxes with solve our problems really scares me.

These policys are based on Socialism, and the Dem.s are actually screwing it up. The thing is, when Socialism was created it was a pretty good thought process, but times have changed and things needed to be updated. One of those is healthcare. There are two thoughts on how to provide 'healthcare'. The first is what Canada has, were the gov. just pays for your medical care. The second is Britian uses, where the government provides insurance (you pay a small amount, and the gov. helps like an insurance company).
There are of course variants within these. Many want these to be for only the lower classes, and maybe suplimental for the middle class. Many also want to have a government funded 'insurance company' that competes in a 'free market' system (most people in one of those variants is also in the other). But, no matter how you think it should go, the Dem.s really have no idea what they are talking about. What they want is what Canada has, and (sorry to all Canadians but) your system is pretty messed up.

But, that is the word of a Socialist. Feel free to ignore and and hate me for it.

 

[jlhummel]

Ignoring or hating is part of the problem, I will listen and discuss ideas with anyone. where an idea comes from isnt as important as the idea its self. My problem with government involvment in social issues is that any new Bureaucracy made to run a new program eventually starts to worry more about validating its own existence than it does about doing and running the program it was designed to manage as effiecianly as possible and for the could of the public.
I do lean towards a system of you pay what you can afford for health insurance and the gov supplimenting to make it affordable for all. with those with the least monatary need paying more.

 

[CuongNhuka]

I do lean towards a system of you pay what you can afford for health insurance and the gov supplimenting to make it affordable for all. with those with the least monatary need paying more.

Welcome to Socialism.

 

[jlhummel]

Not quite
isnt it more like "to those as they need, from those as they can give" not quite the quote but close I believe. I think it was Eugene Debs

 

[shesulsa]

Who was the runt James Madison (5'4") beat?
interesting Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heights_of_United_States_Presidents_and_presidential_candidates

No television. People couldn't see him except on risers, eh? It's been speculated that if television had been more evolved, FDR wouldn't have been reelected because of his obvious health problems (wheelchair). AND that Richard Nixon looked like a crook when debating JFK because he 1 refused to wear makeup and 2 his 5 o'clock shadow. The eyes ... it's all in the eyes.

Aye, but who will stand up at the polls and vote for None Of The Above?

I'm voting for Ralph Nader. Period.

 

[Big Don]

No television. People couldn't see him except on risers, eh? It's been speculated that if television had been more evolved, FDR wouldn't have been reelected because of his obvious health problems (wheelchair). AND that Richard Nixon looked like a crook when debating JFK because he 1 refused to wear makeup and 2 his 5 o'clock shadow. The eyes ... it's all in the eyes.


I'm voting for Ralph Nader. Period.

Nixon was kind of an ugly guy...
Yeah, yeah, we aren't supposed to judge a book by it's cover, but, Nixon was never pretty.

 

[shesulsa]

Neither is Sarah Jessica Parker. :lol2:

 

[Big Don]

Neither is Sarah Jessica Parker. :lol2:

Oh god, no kidding!
edited to add, yes, I got it. Cynthia Nixon...

 

[CuongNhuka]

I do lean towards a system of you pay what you can afford for health insurance and the gov supplimenting to make it affordable for all. with those with the least monatary need paying more.

isnt it more like "to those as they need, from those as they can give" not quite the quote but close I believe. I think it was Eugene Debs

Like I said, welcome to Socialism.

I'm not sure one way or anouther if Debs said that, but I do know it has been adopted as the unofficial mantra of Socialism.