Or some bizarre form of twerking.Not doing proper push ups. We have lots of kids who say they can do 100 push ups and then demonstrate either "arm twitching" or "head bobbing".
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Or some bizarre form of twerking.Not doing proper push ups. We have lots of kids who say they can do 100 push ups and then demonstrate either "arm twitching" or "head bobbing".
Or some bizarre form of twerking.
I think it was already mentioned, but I don't think that's a good comparison. When TKD started it was, if I'm not mistaken, mostly military men or serious students that trained everyday for hours on end. Compare that to most students who go to 2-3 hours of class a week and do little solo training at home. According to "A Killing Art" there was controversy over some of the black belts Choi handed out in the 70's because those people were not knowledgeable enough to be experts in TKD. When teaching TSD during the Korean war, 1st Dan black belts were considered experts. During in the early pre TKD days of the original kwans both Byung Jik Ro (Song Moo Kwan), Won Kuk Lee (Chung Do Kwan) were only 1st dan (some sources say Lee was 3rd dan so who knows for sure) when they started teaching in Korea and both were considered experts. I think the time to get 1st dan has stayed the same but the quality of training has not.When Taekwondo started in Korea, black belt was seen as a pretty beginner rank. I don't think Korea has reduced the time before black belt, I think it's been consistently about a year. For example GM Park Hae-man did about 6 months of Taekwondo before the Korean War, then when the war ended (July 1953) he resumed/restarted training. He was promoted to 1st Dan in 1954.
Maybe when some early masters moved internationally, they built up what a black belt meant, expected more from their students (to make them more desirable?), but in Korea I think it's always been viewed as the first step on a lifetime's journey.
For what it's worth, Taekwondo isn't alone in this. Funakoshi Gichin Sensei promoted his first group of Shotokan Karate students to 1st Dan after about 18 months of training. Kano Jigoro Sensei promoted his first group of Judo students to 1st Dan after just over 1 year.
I think it was already mentioned, but I don't think that's a good comparison. When TKD started it was, if I'm not mistaken, mostly military men or serious students that trained everyday for hours on end.
Compare that to most students who go to 2-3 hours of class a week and do little solo training at home. According to "A Killing Art" there was controversy over some of the black belts Choi handed out in the 70's because those people were not knowledgeable enough to be experts in TKD.
When teaching TSD during the Korean war, 1st Dan black belts were considered experts.
During in the early pre TKD days of the original kwans both Byung Jik Ro (Song Moo Kwan), Won Kuk Lee (Chung Do Kwan) were only 1st dan (some sources say Lee was 3rd dan so who knows for sure)
when they started teaching in Korea and both were considered experts. I think the time to get 1st dan has stayed the same but the quality of training has not.
I agree....proper twerking is important.Not their fault though, they need to be taught properly.
I hate twerking and those who can do it............. I can't and am very jealous.I agree....proper twerking is important.
And now I have a visual of Tez3 teaching a bunch of kids how to twerk: "Kids, it's in the legs, not the hips. I'll show you again...."Not their fault though, they need to be taught properly.
You beat me to it. What is worse is when they are teaching a non-Chinese method, or one with only tenuous or dubious claim to being Chinese and they insist on being called Sigung.Martial Arts Pet Peeves
People teaching Chinese Martial Arts who have their students, and everyone else, call then Shigong
They think it means Grand Master, but it doesn't. It means teacher's teacher so basically they are saying they taught their teacher who then taught them.
Also, there is no such thing as a Traditional Chinese Martial Arts teacher in China using the title grand master if they are dealing with Chinese students or other Chinese martial artists or if they are honest.
You beat me to it. What is worse is when they are teaching a non-Chinese method, or one with only tenuous or dubious claim to being Chinese and they insist on being called Sigung.
I heard a quote that was attributed to Dr Izumi Tabata saying "If you can do this set of exercises twice in a row, you didn't do it hard enough the first time". I was never able to find proof he said it, but if you look at the original study it was elite level athletes going at absolute maximum intensity. Described in the original paper it was 170% VO2 max. Tabata training: one of the most energetically effective high-intensity intermittent training methods - The Journal of Physiological SciencesThe misuse of the term "Tabata" in martial arts classes, and in general to be honest...
"OKAY everyone, we're gonna do a 30-45 minute Tabata workout!"
I can guarantee you, if you're doing 30-45 minutes of "Tabata" protocol you would NOT be going for 30minutes, let alone 10! They..... are...... BRUTAL.
Maybe this is more of a general peeve with the usage of that...
Are you talking about Chinese people teaching in China? Or Americans teaching in America? For me, it would make a difference.Martial Arts Pet Peeves
People teaching Chinese Martial Arts who have their students, and everyone else, call then Shigong
They think it means Grand Master, but it doesn't. It means teacher's teacher so basically they are saying they taught their teacher who then taught them.
Also, there is no such thing as a Traditional Chinese Martial Arts teacher in China using the title grand master if they are dealing with Chinese students or other Chinese martial artists or if they are honest.
Are you talking about Chinese people teaching in China? Or Americans teaching in America? For me, it would make a difference.
Yeah exactly haha... Tabata is NOT just interval training. Having done Tabata protocol with sprints (as close as I can get to it, as the original setup is very controlled and on a stationary bike), 4 minutes of it as recommended (8x20s work, 10s rest), I don't know if I've ever felt the things I felt...I heard a quote that was attributed to Dr Izumi Tabata saying "If you can do this set of exercises twice in a row, you didn't do it hard enough the first time". I was never able to find proof he said it, but if you look at the original study it was elite level athletes going at absolute maximum intensity. Described in the original paper it was 170% VO2 max. Tabata training: one of the most energetically effective high-intensity intermittent training methods - The Journal of Physiological Sciences
Good luck doing that for 30 minutes and not dying!
I hear you. This doesn't bother me too much, personally. Depends on how it's done and why. I can see why it bugs you, though.American teachers or for that matter European teachers, teaching. Not in China as far as sigung/shigong goes. And both of thse mean teacher's teacher or master's master. So having students call you sigung you are saying I taught my teacher who taught me.
As for China, there are no grandmasters in China and if there were it is not sigung/shigong. The only was you will find a Chinese martial arts teacher in China, and probably taiwan too, using the term grandmaster is if they have a lot of foreign students with no Chinese students in the class