Thats cool while I love collecting animal techniques i also enjoy doing the variations of them so inverted leopard or whatever but I try to separate it all since I've seen different animal techniques in different systems be called different things. I saw what I called a turtle fist being called Elephant so yeah always complicated haha
I often refer to it as the "door knocking fist" Because that's the natural fist that most of us would make if asked to knock on a door. The striking knuckles are the same knuckles that are used when knocking on the door. This is the same structure of how the fist is made. The only exception is that this fist is loose.
The fist we use in Lama Pai is just closed and the thumb is on the top and out of the way, sometimes we'll extend the middle knuckle into lung tao for using with forward fist positioned punches
I think the naming convention is based on the culture and what was going on around that time. For example, the reason I call it a "Knocking Fist" is because it's the shape that most people make when they knock on a door or wall. If I tell a student to knock on on the wall then their fist is 90% formed. They just need to tighten it a little and maybe bend the thumb. They also understand which knuckles can be used to strike with because they have used them to knock on things be it a door
I see that makes alot of sense! Yeah it seems similar to what I was told was the cup choy other than that and this one I haven't seen other styles use it necessarily
That's really cool. I honestly hadn't heard of Lama fist before this. I've heard of many technique names but this is definitely new
It looks a bit similar shaped to the Lama Fist if not just a leopard fist hitting on the same part of the hand as a ridge hand? I assume it's used in a shorter range hooking motion to the temple mainly right?
Yeah that makes sense. I've heard a few ideas on why some are named as such. That's a cool way to look at it. At the end of the day they are names for just hand shapes so I try not to get to caught into it but it helps with the mindset also. See now in the way you use it that can help a ton and save a lot of time correcting them. I'm not saying the other names are bad but this is useful for people since we all know how to knock.
Not sure if I replied to this but thanks ill check it out
One of the punches in the system that I use was named from a Sailor's activity on a boat, that is done to hoist sales. To this day I still don't know what that looks like. I don't sail lol. and I think the Sailor's technique is no longer used.
That's pretty cool. Yeah I wouldn't know either haha. Then again alot of the internal styles seem to have unique names usually for the same reason mentioned. Or just describing what their doing in a cooler mysterious way to current day people.
Yes. It's from the Tiger Crane Paired Fist (Fu Hok Seung Ying Kuen), driving the ridge of the knuckles into both sides of the temples, intending to damage the skull, brain, and/or ears.
Yes. That is the book.
There is the double rams horn punch similar to this in our Yang Long form.
I see so it's essentially just a Leopards paw but both hands hooking to the temple. Not necessarily a different hand shape?
Great I'll give it a look!
That's cool. I have learned an "ram" technique it wad called rams head. If I remember right it was more or less a Downward horizontal fist strike. Not sure if it's any way similar to what you call a ram based technique
You can do the same strike with normal fists, but that particular area of the sides of the skull are well suited for the wedge shaped baoquan (generally it's not a great fist pattern for striking a hard surface but good for soft spots like the ribs, jaw, side of head etc. But you can also use cup choy and bomb the ears with the flat/heart inside side of the hand, which starts to approximate an overhand.
Change the hardness of the bone is a load of crap, unless him saying that was to change the mindset of the person he's doing against that. Anyone who does that forearm conditioning exercise knows that the pain gradually gets worse. I would have been more impressed if he started with it hurting to then moving to where it doesn't hurt. The other thing about that is the angle at which the strike occurs will determine if it lands on the soft part of the arm or the on the bone.
