Dale Seago
Black Belt
Blame Brian R. VanCise for this thread:
A friend who was in Japan last month mentioned at the time that there apparently is a more formal relationship between Gyokko ryu, Koto ryu, and Togakure ryu than he'd previously realized: He was training with Nagato and Someya and mentioned that waza from the first two were being used as starting points and then 'ninja-ized' through the addition of the sanpo hiden of Togakure Ryu - metsubishi, shuko and senban shuriken.
Strangely enough, I was doing the same sort of thing in my dojo.
In an email to someone near the end of January I wrote,
Here's a 5-second clip of a henka from koteuchitonsougata from 3 weeks ago: www.bujinkansf.org/kote_uchi_henka.mp4
Since I was in "demonstration/teaching" mode we're not going especially fast, but it's nicely dramatic nonetheless: Uke goes airborne because (a) he has no balance, making it easy to rotate both ends of his body around his own center of mass; (b) I end up applying potentially-breaking pressure to his elbow while (c) simultaneously displacing his foot from below. He told me afterward that he could tell that his arm would have broken had I not withdrawn and "escaped" from the flow in the midst of the technique. As he falls, I have effectively "disappeared" and he can't tell where I am. (BTW, at no point do I grab him with my hands.)
On Thursdays (weapons class), we're focusing on swordsmanship. So far we're not yet using the formal sword kata (they're in the old Ninja Biken video from Quest if anyone needs them), but we're working with various things off of a couple of the formal kamae.
I don't want to go into too much specific detail on a forum, but hopefully these will serve as helpful suggestions for some.
Would you mind starting a thread on the kata's you are personally working on right now based on the theme of the year?![]()
A friend who was in Japan last month mentioned at the time that there apparently is a more formal relationship between Gyokko ryu, Koto ryu, and Togakure ryu than he'd previously realized: He was training with Nagato and Someya and mentioned that waza from the first two were being used as starting points and then 'ninja-ized' through the addition of the sanpo hiden of Togakure Ryu - metsubishi, shuko and senban shuriken.
Strangely enough, I was doing the same sort of thing in my dojo.

More recently we spent an evening working with Koku, the first kata of Gyokko ryu, and "Togakurizing" it with henka using various weapons and adding shinnenjutsu methods to really confuse the senses of the opponent, focusing on the feeling of "hiding/escaping" throughout.One of the things I've been doing in my Tuesday classes for a few months now, due to a number of newbies coming in, is spending some time initially in each class (up to half the class, actually) on one of the Kihon Happo waza: First the "original recipe" densho form to get the correct mechanics down, then making it more "tactical" to show ways in which it can actually be used for combat.
Since the first of the year, though, while I've still done this, I've been going further and "Togakurizing" (TM) these forms.
And of course we're beginning to work with the "Escaping Rat" forms as well; actually, we only finally got into the first one last week as I didn't feel folks were ready yet and I wanted to do other things with characteristic Togakure tactics and movement for a while first. (Even though it's been many years since Togakure ryu was a "theme" for the Bujinkan, I have an advantage in that this is my 3rd training cycle in it and I have the perspective to add from all the "annual theme" concepts since it was last stressed in '91.)
This past Sunday I had my usual 3rd-Sunday-of-the-month "monthly mini-seminar" from 10-14:00 and spent almost all of it on the "Tonkatsugata" (hee!!)
We spent the first two hours just on the first "escaping rat" form: The timing (which isn't shown in the Quest video), the mechanics, how to do it without getting killed. Then we worked on "why someone might grab your wrist and yank it" and what that could lead to. Then we began adding accessing & using weapons (carried in different ways on different parts of your body), then doing it unarmed vs. multiple attackers, then using it vs. multiple attackers while accessing and using weapons.
We didn't restrict ourselves to 16th-century scenarios. Specific weapons we brought into play included tanto or wakizashi worn in the traditional position; shuriken held concealed in the hand or hidden in the gi jacket; modern pistol holstered at the right hip; folding knife clipped into a pants pocket; and modern tactical carbine or shotgun held at the shoulder ("bad guy" grabs the barrel to yank it offline so he can deal with you and get your weapon -- remember, we have security/law enforcement/military types training in our dojo). All of these require adapting your use of space within the parameters of the original form in such a way that an opponent can't get at your weapon but YOU can.
We spent about the last hour on scenarios with no formal kamae where you're attacked by someone but don't want to "blow your cover" by letting anyone know that you're trained. Everything appears to be accidental -- you may, for example, seem to just "stumble and fall on him to death".![]()
Here's a 5-second clip of a henka from koteuchitonsougata from 3 weeks ago: www.bujinkansf.org/kote_uchi_henka.mp4
Since I was in "demonstration/teaching" mode we're not going especially fast, but it's nicely dramatic nonetheless: Uke goes airborne because (a) he has no balance, making it easy to rotate both ends of his body around his own center of mass; (b) I end up applying potentially-breaking pressure to his elbow while (c) simultaneously displacing his foot from below. He told me afterward that he could tell that his arm would have broken had I not withdrawn and "escaped" from the flow in the midst of the technique. As he falls, I have effectively "disappeared" and he can't tell where I am. (BTW, at no point do I grab him with my hands.)
On Thursdays (weapons class), we're focusing on swordsmanship. So far we're not yet using the formal sword kata (they're in the old Ninja Biken video from Quest if anyone needs them), but we're working with various things off of a couple of the formal kamae.
I don't want to go into too much specific detail on a forum, but hopefully these will serve as helpful suggestions for some.