Inosanto and Wong hated each other!

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Yep! This is it. The divide of JKD is at the root of these two men. You can see it in the bruce lee fighting series, the pictures tell a thousand words. Astrologically inosanto is a sun sign Leo and Wong is a sun sign Scorpio. These signs hate each other.
 
I'm Scorpio and I don't hate Leos, that would be ridiculous.
 
Actually I think this article sums up the issues well. JKD ‘Concepts’ vs. ‘Original’ JKD. The issue was, and is, never really Inosanto v Wong. Heck Inosanto originally didn't want to teach JKD. The name JKD concepts even came from the fact that he wasn't going to teach JKD at his seminars but only the foundational concepts.

The rivalry, imo was created by their students. In cases like this it is usually that the followers and not the leaders cause the problems because the leaders, usually, don't have anything to prove.
 
I'm a Gemini. Who am I supposed to hate? I wouldn't want to find out I've been getting along with someone I'm supposed to detest. It would be such a faux pas.
 
"Wasted away again in Margaritaville,
Searchin' for my lost shaker of salt.
Some people claim that there's a woman to blame,
But I know it's nobody's fault"
 
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Tony Dismukes said:
I'm a Gemini. Who am I supposed to hate? I wouldn't want to find out I've been getting along with someone I'm supposed to detest. It would be such a faux pas.
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Bruce Lee was a sagitaurius, opposite of gemini. He would kick your ***!
 
I'm a Taurus and I hate everybody. I don't know if I am supposed to, but I do. I'm an equal opportunity hater.
 
Juany118 said:
Actually I think this article sums up the issues well. JKD ‘Concepts’ vs. ‘Original’ JKD. The issue was, and is, never really Inosanto v Wong. Heck Inosanto originally didn't want to teach JKD. The name JKD concepts even came from the fact that he wasn't going to teach JKD at his seminars but only the foundational concepts.

The rivalry, imo was created by their students. In cases like this it is usually that the followers and not the leaders cause the problems because the leaders, usually, don't have anything to prove.
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Interesting article, written by Chris Kent.



After the grief of Bruce Lee’s death, Inosanto had the dilemma of promising to not commercialise JKD and keep his own career of teaching martial art. He opened the inosanto academy to teach the new martial art of Kali to the masses. As the article explains: people wanted the JKD in his seminars and not the kali stuff he was researching at the time. So he gave JKD seminars riding on the wave of post Bruce Lee fame.

At the time he met Bruce Lee 1964, he had no knowledge of kali at that time, but had a kempo blackbelt. In his own “definitive Inosanto” DVD’s he said this as much. After the closer of Bruce Lee’s schools (1967?) He was learning kali up to Lee’s death in 1973.

I think that after Lee’s death he believed that Kali, seliat and FMA were superior to JKD and the name: JKD-concept was born.
 
pinklady6000 said:
Interesting article, written by Chris Kent.



After the grief of Bruce Lee’s death, Inosanto had the dilemma of promising to not commercialise JKD and keep his own career of teaching martial art. He opened the inosanto academy to teach the new martial art of Kali to the masses. As the article explains: people wanted the JKD in his seminars and not the kali stuff he was researching at the time. So he gave JKD seminars riding on the wave of post Bruce Lee fame.

At the time he met Bruce Lee 1964, he had no knowledge of kali at that time, but had a kempo blackbelt. In his own “definitive Inosanto” DVD’s he said this as much. After the closer of Bruce Lee’s schools (1967?) He was learning kali up to Lee’s death in 1973.

I think that after Lee’s death he believed that Kali, seliat and FMA were superior to JKD and the name: JKD-concept was born.
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I don't think he did. As a matter of fact he modeled his Lacoste-Inosanto Kali after the JKD concept to the point some call it "JKD-Kali." His Kali is actually a combination of 26 different original sources, among them different schools of FMA, Kuntao (the Chinese Kung Fu of the Chinese populations of SE Asia) and Silat among others. He even refers to it as a "mixed martial art concept as opposed to the mixed martial art sport." I study both L-I Kali and Wing Chun, which is basically the foundation of JKD. I have to concur with the article when it says that Kali, on its face, is easier than Wing Chun. To really Master Kali is as difficult, don't get me wrong, but it is easier to get a basic level of competence. The main reason for this is that there was so much cross pollination between the arts in that region via trade and conquest anyway that there were similarities before he began to create his system, vs Bruce Lee's JKD that takes everything from European fencing footwork to Savate, Western Boxing and then Asian styles.
 
Frankly I think Ted Wong would have cared more about this...

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than this...

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That is if he cared anything about it at all.

And

Dan Inosanto, based on the Chinese Zodiac is a Rat
Ted Wong based on the Chinese Zodiac is a Ox

And Rat and an Ox is a good match in the Chinese Zodiac
 
Juany118 said:
I don't think he did. As a matter of fact he modeled his Lacoste-Inosanto Kali after the JKD concept to the point some call it "JKD-Kali." His Kali is actually a combination of 26 different original sources, among them different schools of FMA, Kuntao (the Chinese Kung Fu of the Chinese populations of SE Asia) and Silat among others. He even refers to it as a "mixed martial art concept as opposed to the mixed martial art sport." I study both L-I Kali and Wing Chun, which is basically the foundation of JKD. I have to concur with the article when it says that Kali, on its face, is easier than Wing Chun. To really Master Kali is as difficult, don't get me wrong, but it is easier to get a basic level of competence. The main reason for this is that there was so much cross pollination between the arts in that region via trade and conquest anyway that there were similarities before he began to create his system, vs Bruce Lee's JKD that takes everything from European fencing footwork to Savate, Western Boxing and then Asian styles.
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Lacoste-Inosanto Kali?! This is not JKD is it. It is a new style created by Inosanto.
 
pinklady6000 said:
Lacoste-Inosanto Kali?! This is not JKD is it. It is a new style created by Inosanto.
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The Kali Guro Dan teaches in his seminars is a creation of his own using the principles Bruce Lee used to create JKD. Its foundation is in the Filipino Martial Arts but, as with JKD, it incorporates techniques from other MAs into it. That is why some refer to it as "JKD-Kali" because it uses the same principle that one should not be tied down to an individual style.
 
Xue Sheng said:
Frankly I think Ted Wong would have cared more about this...

chinese-horoscope.gif


than this...

lovestrology-phyllis-vega-astrology-signs-of-zodiac.png


That is if he cared anything about it at all.

And

Dan Inosanto, based on the Chinese Zodiac is a Rat
Ted Wong based on the Chinese Zodiac is a Ox

And Rat and an Ox is a good match in the Chinese Zodiac
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If Lee was born in 1940: that makes him a DRAGON!
 
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