futsaowingchun
Black Belt
Its been awhile since I posted anything here. Ive recently made some video on stuff am working on.. Let me know what you think and if you have any questions. Here is the first on on Forward pressure.
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I would like to see how that applies to other systems if possible.Its been awhile since I posted anything here. Ive recently made some video on stuff am working on.. Let me know what you think and if you have any questions. Here is the first on on Forward pressure.
The training contact is the same as the Luk sao platform in this video. Am not sure what you mean how do you establish arm contact?Taiji has push hand. WC has sticky hand. The training how to achieve arm contact is not clear. Should Taiji and WC also include "How to establish arms contact"?
If your opponent rotates his arms the same direction as you do, it can be difficult to establish arm contact. How do you solve that problem?
sure..I train with several people who have different styles. you can adopt it to any styleI would like to see how that applies to other systems if possible.
Taiji has push hand. WC has sticky hand. The training how to achieve arm contact is not clear. Should Taiji and WC also include "How to establish arms contact"?
I'm talking about training (not fighting). This is a general MA issue. The process forYou mean during a fight? Or do you mean how two training partners connect arms to begin training / rolling in a chi sau partner drill?
I'm talking about training (not fighting). This is a general MA issue. The process for
- Judo guys to obtain clinch.
- WC guys to set up sticky hand.
- Taiji guys to set up push hand.
- BJJ guys to start ground game.
- ...
should be addresses also.
The afterward training is important. But the previous training is also important.
My concern is if you try to touch your arm on your opponent's arm, but your opponent refuses and tries to avoid arm contact. The skill to solve that problem is not currently addressed in most of the WC sticky hand training.
A simple example is if I keep my arms straight up, you will never be able to apply under hook on me.
If the MA training all start from a punch, the training is realistic and I won't have any concern.the drill of chi sau is initiated by one training partner throwing a punch at the other training partners face.
I think Wang and I are thinking the same thing. We understand that it's a cooperative partner drill but there is something in that drill that can be used against another system right?Well, what most fail to realize is that sticking hand training is a cooperative partner drill.
So in your example, if my training partner avoids arm contact then they will never be able to train and practice. I can't force someone else to practice...so I'm having a hard time understanding your logic here
This is line dependent. HFY doesn't teach it as a cooperative drill. For us, it's meant to be combat stimulus and response.Well, what most fail to realize is that sticking hand training is a cooperative partner drill.
This is only true if your opponent doesn't retreat. My guess is that the bridge is created when the opportunity for the bridge to exist is available. My other assumption is that outside jabs and inside slips are not good for trying to bridge using the arms.The closer you get to your opponent the easier it is for a bridge to occur so you dont need to seek it. it comes to you.
During a fists flying situation, how to obtain an arm contact? This is the kind of training that I'm very interested in.how do you form one when the opponent refuses to offer you one.
One day one of my senior SC brotherd said, "if I just keep moving aroud and avoid contact, none of your techniques will work on me". His commenent had bothered me for a long time.The closer you get to your opponent the easier it is for a bridge to occur so you dont need to seek it. it comes to you.
During a fists flying situation, how to obtain an arm contact? This is the kind of training that I'm very interested in.
This is line dependent. HFY doesn't teach it as a cooperative drill. For us, it's meant to be combat stimulus and response.
how do you form a bridge, and more specifically how do you form one when the opponent refuses to offer you one.
Of course if your opponent doesn't want to fight, you don't have to fight. But what if you do want to fight (such as in a tournament)?
During a fists flying situation, how to obtain an arm contact? This is the kind of training that I'm very interested in.
I have a set of strategies that I like. But I'm interested to hear other's strategies on this.
The OP made a video, showing the point that he wanted to demonstrate. That does not mean that the OP does not know how to get into that position, or does not train to do so. It means, that he wanted to spend the time on this point in particular.I'm talking about training (not fighting). This is a general MA issue. The process for
- Judo guys to obtain clinch.
- WC guys to set up sticky hand.
- Taiji guys to set up push hand.
- BJJ guys to start ground game.
- ...
should be addresses also.
A simple example is if I keep my arms straight up, you will never be able to apply under hook on me.