6 hours isn't overtraining if you can afford it, and your bodies healthy. If someone is trying for 6 hours a week, an hour max probably isn't good to them.6 hours is to much 45 min to 1 hour is good dont over train your self
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6 hours isn't overtraining if you can afford it, and your bodies healthy. If someone is trying for 6 hours a week, an hour max probably isn't good to them.6 hours is to much 45 min to 1 hour is good dont over train your self
Just an FYI, OP is planning on becoming a professional martial artist (I believe owning a dojo but think he's mentioned conditioning before), and is also young enough he still has that awesome recovery rate. 6 hours also isn't too much if you space it out right-for instance, an hour jog right when you wake up, training for 1.5 hours around 10 or 11, going for an hour workout around 2 or 3, an hour at the dojo and an hour sparring in the evening, brings you to 5.5 hours.I have disagreed with Buka and Monkey regarding training 6+ hours per day. As I mentioned earlier, the masters of the mid 1800,'s to the early 1900's cautioned about overtraining, and these guys were as hard core as you can get. While modern MMA professionals may hit this training goal, these fighters came into training camp with MA experience and great conditioning. They also have expert coaches training and looking out for them, as well as some medical support. It is not a training schedule to take lightly.
I think 4 hours/day is more than enough for 99% of us normal people that are dedicated practitioners. There is also the burnout factor, especially for beginners. Remember the fable of the tortoise and the hare. Buka, if your post was not exaggerated, you are an aberration.
The OP is a beginner. He does not know what he wants. He needs some real experience.Just an FYI, OP is planning on becoming a professional martial artist (I believe owning a dojo but think he's mentioned conditioning before), and is also young enough he still has that awesome recovery rate. 6 hours also isn't too much if you space it out right-for instance, an hour jog right when you wake up, training for 1.5 hours around 10 or 11, going for an hour workout around 2 or 3, an hour at the dojo and an hour sparring in the evening, brings you to 5.5 hours.
I didn't recall him being a beginner, so just double checked. He came to the site 1.5 years ago, had been training TKD for 6 months before that, and had been training in boxing for 8 years before that as well, and he was still taking boxing when he joined here, and practiced judo/karate as a little kid before moving.The OP is a beginner. He does not know what he wants. He needs some real experience.
Where do you see that training history? I don’t see it in his profile.I didn't recall him being a beginner, so just double checked. He came to the site 1.5 years ago, had been training TKD for 6 months before that, and had been training in boxing for 8 years before that as well, and he was still taking boxing when he joined here, and practiced judo/karate as a little kid before moving.
So his timeline would so he trained judo/karate pre 8 years old, from 8 to 16 trained boxing, then from 16 to present day, 2 years later, has been doing TKD. I wouldn't consider that a beginner, and at 18 years old it's exactly the time that he should be figuring out what he wants to do for his life, particularly if it involves something physical like martial arts.
I went back to his first few posts. I remembered it being discussed when he first started posting. He is still a beginner of TKD, but he's had enough training to know if this is something he wants to continue. He had some other things mentioned I didn't, since from what I recall he's stopped training most but TKD now.Where do you see that training history? I don’t see it in his profile.
I have disagreed with Buka and Monkey regarding training 6+ hours per day. As I mentioned earlier, the masters of the mid 1800,'s to the early 1900's cautioned about overtraining, and these guys were as hard core as you can get. While modern MMA professionals may hit this training goal, these fighters came into training camp with MA experience and great conditioning. They also have expert coaches training and looking out for them, as well as some medical support. It is not a training schedule to take lightly.
I think 4 hours/day is more than enough for 99% of us normal people that are dedicated practitioners. There is also the burnout factor, especially for beginners. Remember the fable of the tortoise and the hare. Buka, if your post was not exaggerated, you are an aberration.
Man oh man, the simplicity of a young person's life and way of thinking. I miss that sometimes.If you worked an 8 hrs day and slept 7hrs you still have 9 hrs to squeeze in 6 hrs of training.
Which you could break up to 3 and 3.
Thanks this is really helpful.There are tons of examples of people that train 6 hours a day but as many have already said, it is not easy to dedicate your life to that sole purpose. You can try reading Judd Reid's "The Young Lions: 1000 days of Training Under a Karate Legend". It will give you an idea of the kind of dedication required and the lifestyle training becomes. Regardless of the type of MA's you want to do it is worthwhile to read about someone else's experience so that you can determine if this is the path you want to walk. Good luck.
Does the strength and conditioning include weight work or just body weight exercises such as pushups? And how long do the breaks last? As for the basketball/baseball drills, how do they assist him with his karate?Jake's daily routine:
Morning
Agility training (cone drills, shuttle runs, sprints, etc.. 40 minutes
Break
Strength and conditioning workout (he gets a daily workout sent to him by a trainer) - 40 minutes
Break
30 minutes stretching
Afternoon
Skill training - 1 hour (Baseball or basketball drills)
Break
Karate skill training 60-75 minutes (alternating days - forms and weapons or sparring). For sparring, he does a lot of work on the heavy bag, focus mits, some drills with elastic bands, and then sometimes little sparring with me.
When I was training for competition I would train 3 - 4 hours a day. A normal training session for me non-competition was 2 hours. For competitive training I increased my training by 2 hours so I could get some conditioning and weight training in. I would spend 2 hours on conditioning and 2 for fighting.I have disagreed with Buka and Monkey regarding training 6+ hours per day. As I mentioned earlier, the masters of the mid 1800,'s to the early 1900's cautioned about overtraining, and these guys were as hard core as you can get. While modern MMA professionals may hit this training goal, these fighters came into training camp with MA experience and great conditioning. They also have expert coaches training and looking out for them, as well as some medical support. It is not a training schedule to take lightly.
I think 4 hours/day is more than enough for 99% of us normal people that are dedicated practitioners. There is also the burnout factor, especially for beginners. Remember the fable of the tortoise and the hare. Buka, if your post was not exaggerated, you are an aberration.
Whoa! I meant an aberration (out of the ordinary) in the best way, as a humorous compliment.An aberration according to whom, exawctly? You are opining on a subject I've lived for forty years. And you?
Very good point & post.When I was training for competition I would train 3 - 4 hours a day. A normal training session for me non-competition was 2 hours. For competitive training I increased my training by 2 hours so I could get some conditioning and weight training in. I would spend 2 hours on conditioning and 2 for fighting.
When I thought classes my classes were always 2 hours long and that was on Thursdays (sparring class) and Sundays (forms training). I think there's an assumption that a person who is training 4 and 5 hours a day is going full speed high intensity and that's just not the case. There's various components with training that doesn't require a person to go all out at 500% It's not like one of those high intensity, insanity work outs where you go as hard as your can for 30 minutes.
For me training kung fu. Just the sheer number of techniques to train is going to take more than a hour just to go through let alone really train it.
In many ways, this is true. Training tools are more advanced and there are indeed very committed hard core individuals. I grant that the physical techniques, too, have evolved. Kind of reminds me of Rocky 4 when the Russian was working out on computerized equipment with sport doctors, and Rocky was out in the snow, chopping wood and hefting logs. Modern methods and techniques do not automatically equate into superior performance (though does give some edge.) People of spirit and dedication span the globe and the centuries. These, of course, are the main ingredients.Please keep in mind, the martial arts of today are so much more advanced than the martial arts of the mid eighteen hundreds to the early nineteen hundreds it's not really in the conversation.
Nah.Oh boy we've gotten to the stage where people are whipping them out and comparing lengths
Not really. I know plenty of people who've trained for a long time but they're still poor at what they do. Just feels like a lot of chest puffing which isn't needed. If I disagree with someone I won't suddenly agree with it because they have 100 years of experienceNah.
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