Bruno@MT
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Global warming may or may be happening. We don't know either way.
Noone knows for sure.
No matter what side you believe, you should be open minded enough to admit that the other side -could- be right. We don't know.
The additional problem is that we have only limited data of questionable quality. I have read the account of how they measured the background radiation of the universe. Basically, they measure an insane amount of data, which looks like random noise, which then has to be massaged.
This massaging is normal. You have to compensate for the rotation of the earth, so you do this. The antenna has these geometric properties so the data has to be corrected with X. Then the frequency responsivity is not linear so there are some mroe transformations, etc at nauseam.
and after all that, they finally had a result. Dozens and dozens of corrections had to be done. And of course, if you get it wrong, you introduce bias instead of removing it.
Similar things have to be done with what temperature data we have. Please accept that the bare fact that scientists are doing things to the data is normal. That is what you have to do when working with such data. this is NOT a conspiracy, this is normal. A friend of mine is a statistician, and his problem with global warming is that climatologists are generally not qualified statisticians.
As they say: don't attribute to malevolence what can be attributed to stupidity.
The only conclusion we can make is that we don't know. You can't prove GW is false any more than anyone else can prove it is true.
Noone knows for sure.
No matter what side you believe, you should be open minded enough to admit that the other side -could- be right. We don't know.
The additional problem is that we have only limited data of questionable quality. I have read the account of how they measured the background radiation of the universe. Basically, they measure an insane amount of data, which looks like random noise, which then has to be massaged.
This massaging is normal. You have to compensate for the rotation of the earth, so you do this. The antenna has these geometric properties so the data has to be corrected with X. Then the frequency responsivity is not linear so there are some mroe transformations, etc at nauseam.
and after all that, they finally had a result. Dozens and dozens of corrections had to be done. And of course, if you get it wrong, you introduce bias instead of removing it.
Similar things have to be done with what temperature data we have. Please accept that the bare fact that scientists are doing things to the data is normal. That is what you have to do when working with such data. this is NOT a conspiracy, this is normal. A friend of mine is a statistician, and his problem with global warming is that climatologists are generally not qualified statisticians.
As they say: don't attribute to malevolence what can be attributed to stupidity.
The only conclusion we can make is that we don't know. You can't prove GW is false any more than anyone else can prove it is true.