getting in trouble

[Marshall hahn]

to danjo question they can be lethal if they want to be

 

[Marshall hahn]

to sucide question no i was never a victim

 

[Marshall hahn]

in order to check the penal law were would i have to go

 

[Danjo]

to danjo question they can be lethal if they want to be

My question was why would you have to permanently injure someone if you fought them? Granted, sometimes that might be required, but you're acting as if that's the only speed you have. So, since your techniques are not neccessarily lethal, but rather only if you want them to be, then is it a lack of control on your part, i.e., anger management issues, that would cause any fight to go there?

 

[suicide]

well if you do injure someone that bad your are going to do some time because most likely THE FUZZ will come to your house and take your computer were they will see that you were planning this for awhile but hey thats you ! also once your in jail you cant test your lethal skills against these guys im sure they ll have no problem accomidating you PEEP GAME SON

%-}

 

[Marshall hahn]

suicide u can go f urself

 

[jks9199]

when i hurt them i will be liable to break bone possible paralyze them permenantly

Both are much harder to do than you think. Especially in the heat of a real encounter...

 

[jks9199]

in order to check the penal law were would i have to go

Well... you might try using an internet search engine like Bing or Google.

I'll even make it kind of easy for you: try FindLaw.

 

[suicide]

suicide u can go f urself

%-} yeah whatever lame´o ! what do you expect when you step up in the fourm ACTING like your a lethal weapon ??????????? to tell you the truth i smell _ussy ... so chill out bro and take an anger mngmt. class you need it before you do something stupid your gonna regret , until then go practice your lethalness on a punching bag before you become the punching bag yourself you never know who knows what ? they might flipp it on you :uhyeah:

 

[jks9199]

Hey, guys... A friendly tip. Let's discuss the issues, not attack each other, huh? Otherwise, I foresee this thread going some very bad places which nobody will like.

 

[Bob Hubbard]

WARNING

Knock it off. If we wanted to watch a schoolyard slap fight, we'd invite the 4th graders over.

 

[suicide]

cool i understand %-}

 

[Marshall hahn]

sorry bob i was just trying to find out if i can get in deep trouble with the law and suicide is basiclly insulting me i was just trying to find out the law

 

[Bob Hubbard]

Report the problems, let our staff handle em. Saves headaches for everyone guys.

On the original topic:
Can you get in trouble defending yourself?
Yep.
Many states have an "obligation to retreat" law on the books.
Some are "Castle Doctrine" which allows some protection when your house, car or property are "invaded".
Some hang you out to dry if you don't make the criminal brunch after he pounds you.

Laws vary, based on where you are, the situation, what the bad guy did, and what you did.

In most cases, if you disarm the attacker, then beat him to a pump, it will be your *** that the courts chew up. If you shoot him in the back while he is retreating, you can also get into trouble. If you knock him down, he hits his head and dies, you can get into trouble (the classic bar fight death).

Understand that cops responding to a situation see everyone involved as hostile. Their goal is to stop the carnage and separate the combatants. Not to decide who was right. That is what the courts and lawyers are for.

Common thoughts are to be the person who called the cops, to be cooperative, and polite with them. It usually helps things go better for you. Not always, but usually.

For particulars for your area, consult with a lawyer experienced with self defense case law.

 

[MJS]

i think it is a bad thing to get in trouble by the laws trying to defend yourself from a person trying to hurt you your karate can be the only thing that can save your life

I view it like this. Know the laws of SD in your state. Yes, they will vary from state to state. Do your best to talk your way out of things. It won't always work, as there will be times when there is no time for talking. Base what you do, off of whats presented to you at the time. Avoid problem areas.

 

[Marshall hahn]

i live in a small town in texas if someone come up to me on the street and try to rob me can i defend myself

 

[Carol]

i live in a small town in texas if someone come up to me on the street and try to rob me can i defend myself

Find a qualified defense attorney in your part of Texas and discuss your situation with him. Better to get good advice before you do something.

 

[Marshall hahn]

can anyone tell me wat this means

. DEADLY FORCE IN DEFENSE OF PERSON.
(a) A person is justified in using deadly force against another:
(1) if the actor would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.31; and
(2) when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A) to protect the actor against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful deadly force; or
(B) to prevent the other's imminent commission of aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault,
aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.
(b) The actor's belief under Subsection (a)(2) that the deadly force was immediately necessary as described by that
subdivision is presumed to be reasonable if the actor:
(1) knew or had reason to believe that the person against whom the deadly force was used:
(A) unlawfully and with force entered, or was attempting to enter unlawfully and with force, the actor's
occupied habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment;
(B) unlawfully and with force removed, or was attempting to remove unlawfully and with force, the actor from the actor's habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment; or
(C) was committing or attempting to commit an offense described by Subsection (a)(2)(B);
(2) did not provoke the person against whom the force was used; and
(3) was not otherwise engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or
ordinance regulating traffic at the time the force was used.
(c) A person who has a right to be present at the location where the deadly force is used, who has not provoked the person
against whom the deadly force is used, and who is not engaged in criminal activity at the time the deadly force is used is
not required to retreat before using deadly force as described by this section.
(d) For purposes of Subsection (a)(2), in determining whether an actor described by Subsection (c) reasonably believed
that the use of deadly force was necessary, a finder of fact may not consider whether the actor failed to retreat

 

[mwd0818]

can anyone tell me wat this means

. DEADLY FORCE IN DEFENSE OF PERSON.
(a) A person is justified in using deadly force against another:
(1) if the actor would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.31; and
(2) when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A) to protect the actor against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful deadly force; or
(B) to prevent the other's imminent commission of aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault,
aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.
(b) The actor's belief under Subsection (a)(2) that the deadly force was immediately necessary as described by that
subdivision is presumed to be reasonable if the actor:
(1) knew or had reason to believe that the person against whom the deadly force was used:
(A) unlawfully and with force entered, or was attempting to enter unlawfully and with force, the actor's
occupied habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment;
(B) unlawfully and with force removed, or was attempting to remove unlawfully and with force, the actor from the actor's habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment; or
(C) was committing or attempting to commit an offense described by Subsection (a)(2)(B);
(2) did not provoke the person against whom the force was used; and
(3) was not otherwise engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or
ordinance regulating traffic at the time the force was used.
(c) A person who has a right to be present at the location where the deadly force is used, who has not provoked the person
against whom the deadly force is used, and who is not engaged in criminal activity at the time the deadly force is used is
not required to retreat before using deadly force as described by this section.
(d) For purposes of Subsection (a)(2), in determining whether an actor described by Subsection (c) reasonably believed
that the use of deadly force was necessary, a finder of fact may not consider whether the actor failed to retreat

I think most of us will actually stay away from providing interpretations to this as we are not lawyers. I would not like to be called in to testify that I told anyone they were justified to do something when I'm not trained in legal judo.

On the other hand, reading this, I think it's pretty straight forward . . .

 

[Marshall hahn]

basicly if i defend myself for a good reason i cant get in trouble