If sexual preference is somthing wired into your genetics...
I think the current thinking is that it's based more on womb conditions than genetics, though teher's likely some genetic component too.
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If sexual preference is somthing wired into your genetics...
It doesn't mean let or encourage people to do what ever they want. This part of the bible is just as mis-used as "Eye for an eye"Guess these folks decided to just ignore that part of the Bible that says " Judge not, lest ye be judged...".
Not speaking for Don, but a common fear of the christian right is that their children will be led into unfavorable situations and subsequent choices.So, what you're shouting is that gay people shouldn't choose to hold hands, have photographs, go out in public together at all, have people over to their house, etc., etc., etc.? That they shouldn't choose to exercise the same basic interactions than the rest of us, because...why,exactly? Becuse their "deviant" behavior is contagious? Offensive?
I mean, sure, I choose to do those things, and I don't see why a gay person shouldn't choose to do those things-or has to choose to do those things-so I'm quite confused at this point, Don.
Are you saying gay people are okay as long as they stay in the closet "where they belong?"
I honestly don't understand what you mean-you're gonna have to be clear.
So Don ... when did you choose to be straight? It's a choice, right? Or is anything except what you do naturally the "choice" of someone else? What about the portion of the animal kingdom that exhibits exclusively homosexual behaviors? Do they make a choice? Because *I* thought choice was part and parcel of free will - that which The Lord Your God gave only to Man?Is your gaydar so strong that you can spot them behind walls?
A black person is obviously black, to all those who see him, in this, he has no choice. To claim a gay person is the same is foolish, no one can read minds, ergo, unless the gay person CHOOSES to let everyone around him KNOW he is gay, no one knows. That is a significant difference.
You chose to be hetero too, didn't you? You're trying to align the exhibition of affection with innate sexual choice. My god, man, that's like saying you wear white tube socks with your sandals because you're caucasian ... it has no relevance or bearing. Couples who love and dare to exhibit modest affection with the love of their lives come in all sizes, shapes, colors and orientations.are you compelled to? or do you have a CHOICE?But, you do these things BECAUSE YOU CHOOSE TO
Yeah, you have to pity gay people, they have no control over their behavior... Oh, that wasn't what you meant? How odd, that is the implication you made.
That could only be said by a hetero who's never lost his job because he's hetero. People play games, people get fired.Not so fast
it also gets you:
protected class status, making it much harder to fire you
Wow. You have a lot of hostility towards homosexuals. Why is that?your credit isnt good enough to get that car or apartment? just scream "gay bashing" and you get your way
Yeah. They used to preach how cool interracial marriages were ... and civil rights were ... and being overweight is ... and ... oh wait ... there's no value in any of those things either.last time I checked, gay was now in, thanks to will and grace, queer eye, sex and the city, etc, hollywood practicly preaches how cool gay is....
Just like hangings and glass ceilings and nazi parades in Skokie ... still done but much less these days. Martha sez it's a good thing.sure, the bad things you mentioned do happen, but less and less these days.
Besides, i am SOOO much prettier than Will.............Well, i am prettier than Jack..............well, ok, I have a bigger rack than Grace...........wait....
Not speaking for Don, but a common fear of the christian right is that their children will be led into unfavorable situations and subsequent choices.
Sean
Bunk. Sexual Orientation has yet to be added to the Civil Rights Act; thus, if sexual orientation is a protected class, it is based on state decision, not federal. Besides, if you're fired for a legitimate reason (work sucks, you're always late, etc.), being gay won't help in the least.
Show me any significant evidence that this occurs with any regularity.
Many argue that such glamorization of homosexuals is actually damaging. As we speak, my sister is watching "Queer as Folk", and I gotta say, its presentation of gays is unbelievably skewed. I wouldn't be so quick to use those shows as examples of gay people not having it so bad.
Why, thank you, Doctor. :spock:Shesulsa,
dont try to read my mind, you sort of suck at it.
I really think the low-lifes who pull that crap are in the minority rather than the majority. I feel rather confident in saying that there are far too many people whom have been injured financially and carreer-wise from their orientation than have profited from it.I have no hostility towards gays. I speak up in favor of gay marraige whenever it is brought up. I had no problems with the gay dude that was on my ship.
What I am hostile towards is falsehoods.
it is a truism that human nature is human nature. And human nature is to play any advantage we can to get those things we require. Some Women use thier periods and or kids to get out of work and get time off. Some men call in sick to go hunting, some non-whites scream racism to get thier way.
it would be foolish to think that members of other protected classes (real or percieved) didnt do the same thing.
We are all human beings and as such we are all subject to human nature. Some people dont stoop to that, but some people do
Please, NObody's prettier than Will.Besides, i am SOOO much prettier than Will.............
Pretty is as pretty does.Well, i am prettier than Jack..............
Heh ... who doesn't?well, ok, I have a bigger rack than Grace...........wait....
Big Don Scribbled with his little crayon:
What a load of crap. Black people have NO CHOICE in whether people notice they are black. Gay people do. That, alone is a HUGE difference...
Well let's see what being gay in this country gets you:
*Religious condemnation
*Public scorn
*Targeted for hate crimes
*Social ostracism still persists in many places.
Given this environment, common sense alone would beg the question:
If being gay was just a "choice" one could "make" why the hell would anyone CHOOSE it?
"Can't you just respect someone for who they are anyway?"
Some "people" can't repect anyone unless they are clones of themselves.
I agree Don. What a load of crap your comment here is. Ignorance and Stupidity in one small phobic package. How convenient of you.
Yeah, prayer worked so well for those pedophile priests. :uhoh:We have two schools of thought here. People who believe one can be changed through prayer and those that feel they don't need to be.