The key thing is a horrible idea. You're going to likely end up hurting yourself, and unless you have the grip very tight, its not going to pierce.
Easy to Carry, Easy to Use Self Defense Weapons
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TwentyThree
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Non firearm/knife options:
Mini Mag-lite on a clip or D-Ring (for keys, purse, belt, what have you) and a Zebra F-701 Stainless Steel pen. If legal - and trained to do so - pepper spray or mace is good too.
And training.
A glove is a bad idea. It doesn't work well in hot climates or seasons, for one.
Another reason is that women won't generally wear them if they aren't "glove people". I don't wear gloves because it hems in my rings and it feels very uncomfortable. I don't even like it in winter when gloves are a good idea (although I suck it up when I have to, obviously).
Another reason is that you have to have something easy to carry and deploy in all situations. For example, it would look weird for a woman to go out to a fancy dinner with her date and walk around wearing gloves (one or two - are you selling them in pairs?) that aren't as dressy as the rest of her clothing.
I agree, the key thing is bad advice.
Mini Mag-lite on a clip or D-Ring (for keys, purse, belt, what have you) and a Zebra F-701 Stainless Steel pen. If legal - and trained to do so - pepper spray or mace is good too.
And training.
A glove is a bad idea. It doesn't work well in hot climates or seasons, for one.
Another reason is that women won't generally wear them if they aren't "glove people". I don't wear gloves because it hems in my rings and it feels very uncomfortable. I don't even like it in winter when gloves are a good idea (although I suck it up when I have to, obviously).
Another reason is that you have to have something easy to carry and deploy in all situations. For example, it would look weird for a woman to go out to a fancy dinner with her date and walk around wearing gloves (one or two - are you selling them in pairs?) that aren't as dressy as the rest of her clothing.
I agree, the key thing is bad advice.
CB Jones
Senior Master
And I have told guys I work with if they are coming to help me leave their pepper spray behind.
I hate that crap. I'd rather the bumps, bruises, and scratches than someone accidentally spraying me.
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
No idea. It was doing the rounds on facebook
My wife just bought a pepper spray bracelet today. It sounds like a good idea.
The only good thing I really see about those is that you do know which way it's pointing. Pepper spray is generally not a particularly reliable self defense option. It's a useful tool sometimes for cops -- but it's not reliable against a determined attacker, against a drunk or drugged attacker... and it takes several minutes to really take effect if it's going to work. Honestly, in just about every actual use I've been involved in, the violent subject didn't notice it until after he was already in custody and calming down. The few situations it's been effective have been dispersing crowds.My wife just bought a pepper spray bracelet today. It sounds like a good idea.
CB Jones
Senior Master
My wife just bought a pepper spray bracelet today. It sounds like a good idea.
It is a good idea if you like spraying yourself with pepper spray.
You couldn't pay me enough to wear one of those.
Danny T
Senior Master
NOOOOOooooo...great way to hurt yourself. Rip finger skin and flesh to the bone. Can damage the tendons and ligament in your finger joints.
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Obito Uchiha
White Belt
I had no problem to wear this into a police department. Nobody can call it a "weapon". But first, you will need to train how to use it.
You get hit with the buckle, you're a goner.
jobo
Grandmaster
I had a fight with a guy who had a similar belt, tripex with a triumph tank badge as a buckle. He was still trying to get it out of his belt loops whilst he was on the floor being kickedI had no problem to wear this into a police department. Nobody can call it a "weapon". But first, you will need to train how to use it.
AIKIKENJITSU
Green Belt
I have been teaching my version of American Kenpo in Puyallup for fifty years. I'm still strong and fast. I always carry a karambit. I use it closed as an effective hand weapon. Your forefinger through the ring and your other fingers gripping around the closed knife. Now you can strike vital spots with both end of the weapon. I use a karambit because it has a ring to slip your finger through and stabilizes your hand. Also you can strike with both ends. Then if it becomes deadly, you can quickly open up the blade. Yes, you should practice using the open blade for defense. Of course in practice never use a real karambit, but a training karambit.
Sifu
Puyallup
Keys. got half a dozen or more keys on a keychain? hold them in your fist with the keys protruding between your fingers. keep your hand in your pocket, but loosely. if attacked, rake the keys down across the face and eyes, or thrust them into the throat or inguinal crease. and run.
carrying weapons, as defined as any item which has no practical purpose aside from causing harm (brass knuckles, guns, tactical batons, combat knives) can be considered premeditated action. using an every day item(keys, umbrellas, your belt) as a weapon, is just self-defense.
I agree that no one should carry a weapon if they do not have training. a knife is a practical tool and can be a weapon, but without training, you are more likely to end up on the stinging end. one should never draw a knife for self-defense until they are sure that their own life is in imminent critical danger, and once drawn, do not hesitate- strike for vitals.
carrying weapons, as defined as any item which has no practical purpose aside from causing harm (brass knuckles, guns, tactical batons, combat knives) can be considered premeditated action. using an every day item(keys, umbrellas, your belt) as a weapon, is just self-defense.
I agree that no one should carry a weapon if they do not have training. a knife is a practical tool and can be a weapon, but without training, you are more likely to end up on the stinging end. one should never draw a knife for self-defense until they are sure that their own life is in imminent critical danger, and once drawn, do not hesitate- strike for vitals.
Keys... Nope. Horribe idea. Don't believe me? Try it against something like a watermelon; you'll tear your hands up.
This is said a lot. And it’s just a bad idea. You’re more likely to injure yourself than an attacker.
Carrying any weapon without training is a bad idea in general. I carry a walking cane, I've been training 4 to 5 days a week for the last 8 months and still there's a lot of room for improvement. You just don't carry anything out without really know how to work it.
Remember, you carry a weapon and don't know how to use, the thug might take it from you and use it on you!!! I even put a loop on my cane and loop around my wrist so I won't accidentally lose it(happens more than you think). I also practice if the thug tries to pull it from me, I practice kicking the knee or between the legs and all that.
I can see key is a very bad idea, you punch someone with keys in between your fingers, first thing is the back of the key is going to dig into your palm and hurt you more.
Remember, you carry a weapon and don't know how to use, the thug might take it from you and use it on you!!! I even put a loop on my cane and loop around my wrist so I won't accidentally lose it(happens more than you think). I also practice if the thug tries to pull it from me, I practice kicking the knee or between the legs and all that.
I can see key is a very bad idea, you punch someone with keys in between your fingers, first thing is the back of the key is going to dig into your palm and hurt you more.
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it will hurt your hand, yes, if you throw a punch this way. press the keys into the face and rake across the eyes, this will not hurt your hand unless you are not holding the keys properly. if you grab your keys during an attack, yes, you will not be able to grab them and situate them effectively between your fingers, that is why i suggest being in the habit of carrying them in your hand, already seated firmly in your palm and arranged to protrude between the fingers. jabbing soft targets like the inguinal, underside of the arm or throat also will not require so much force to cause pain that it will hurt you.
there are better options, but some people don't want to carry a 'weapon', or may just not have their tazer with them that night. but your keys are already in your pocket? use what you have.
there are better options, but some people don't want to carry a 'weapon', or may just not have their tazer with them that night. but your keys are already in your pocket? use what you have.
If you really insist on the idea of keys as a weapon, think more flail than punching. Use a long-ish keychain or fob that will let you effectively keep a grip on them, and then use them as a flail...
But it's still a bad idea. Even if you don't hurt your hand -- what if they keys break? Can you get into your house? Use your car to flee?
But it's still a bad idea. Even if you don't hurt your hand -- what if they keys break? Can you get into your house? Use your car to flee?
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