DCS is advanced training for you?
I thought we were having a serious discussion. This is just silly comment. You think forms, a VT punch, footwork or anything else for that matter being advanced training? There are just two types of training. One is to learn what you dont know, the other is to improve what you already know.
It's extraordinarily rare for anyone to use elbows correctly in full moving, free flow exercises before even learning DCS. Even at later points in development it's often the first thing to give under pressure.
This is a problem for VT? Perhaps you should reconsider your way of training in such cases.
Hey, it is easily understood for me. But putting too much worth with a word like technique you must understand serves little value. You can do a VT punch and call it a technique, or a bong-sau... or whatever. When you however do it at other points its not a technique, its a lot of techniques creating a movement. Nothing is frozen in order to identify it as a technique unless you freeze time. Whatever is, changes to whatever will be. So a technique becomes no longer a technique but a move...
I am not making myself clearer, am I? Perhaps helps if you are a programmer, my mind is kind of binary. Whatever that gives me, I am terrible with names and non-logical matters.
W-W-What? Why?
What are you talking about? Students aren't taught at their own pace in your organization?
We dont need to keep our students away from drills of the rest of class for very long. They do not perform well for some time, but doing drills and training with better students actually force them to learn and improve. Plus they don't get bored from doing same tedious drills for beginners over and over. What I see is that in the end they learn quicker some of them at least this way.
Others I dont think would learn either way because their mind and heart is not into it. Of course then there are other classes, other lessons where beginners do not attend. But they are in addition to normal training.
As to how and why this occurs, well I will not give more details on the matter because this is a system that my sifu operates.
No forward intent or muscle reflex in DCS. Too early. Must learn basic elbow control before worrying about that kind of stuff that can screw it up. Horse before the cart, please.
This is VT specific concern. We dont see that problem, those that already have forward intent will not get rid of it just because of a drill. Those who dont well then they have another value from DCS drill that others don't. I have said before that me personally dont do DCS often anymore.
I am not concerned about DCS, I was simply correcting you when you said something similar to there being no difference being a tall guy. Something I disagree on since there are some exceptions that may or may not be the norm pending on who your partner is.
There is no reason you should need to contort yourself in order to do DCS with anyone above 5 feet tall, unless you are doing something terribly wrong.
You understand that means there is a 1'5'' height difference. This probably means a 5-7'' reach difference on the arms. Do you grasp how little space there will be between these two people when doing DCS. The short person will feel to the tall person like he/she is practically hugging you given your own reach. That feeling makes you want to move back to get to better range, or to knock/throw/trip down to the ground. You will feel it in every fiber of your body (yes I do grappling as well not as part of WT but on the side).
DCS to you is a drill in which you are free to attack and defend as you wish?
I've been talking about taan > palm > bong / fuk > jam > punch. One of those is getting messed up for you and you are forced to change it to something else? Like what?
I see, missunderstood you. The palm is coming from low point moving straight forward, so in order to control the arm I need to collapse my arm and sink my elbow (because of tight space between us or short person will be too far away). To me that collapse is not desirable, it is not how I have been taught because a collapsed elbow just works during drills but real life it will give you a lot of pain.
As for the punch it will come up from a hard angle meaning the bong sau will be forced because it is not the natural rolling action that would trigger a bong sau. As such the feeling is off.
Once more this is something that can happend with a big heigh difference. Because you said it can't I simply said that you miss the situation when height difference is present.
I mean I do not recollect the details perfectly in my head so this is an effort to try and analyze a vague memory. This was not a drill I did recently with a short person, but in the last year or two I have some memory of having been in such a situation twice.
Some set the dummy to resemble a person of a certain height, often a taller person. Many will place the upper arms at shoulder level. That's too high and will encourage lifting and reaching. Everything will be wrong.
The dummy is supposed to refine position by restricting our actions to within our own boundaries, not in reference to an imaginary opponent of a supposed height.
Hey, I said nothing. You were the one stating it was shorter than normal. I found it interesting and not bad in any way. That is why I asked the question as to how much shorter in general does VT practitioners set their wooden dummy. If you do not set it to be shorter then fine, I did not say you did.
Being as tall as I am, the wooden dummy at my school is a lot shorter than what should be the norm for me. It does not serve a problem as it is not TOO short. I was just interested in the reasoning why you did it not to satisfy the height of most but rather as a general rule, in case it was a general rule.
