Originally posted by RCastillo
Cost you Chinese Dinner!
Fine. I just informed the family we were going tonight.
Dealing with Power hitters
- Thread starter KenpoTess
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Fine. I just informed the family we were going tonight.
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RCastillo
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I'll bet the kids revolted on you!
Originally posted by RCastillo
I'll bet the kids revolted on you!
Nope,
They heard there were frog legs tonight.
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RCastillo
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:barf:
Oh, no way. They are great.
:rofl: For some reason they just may not let it happen.
$179 here.
You bet.
And again I will say that is very noble of you as I appreciate it very much. Sir.:asian: :asian:
Poor Tess.
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Kimpatsu
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Why not introduce sparring after the first grading? That way, they won't be newbies any more, but have three months' experience.Originally posted by KenpoTess
you know the kind.. newbies who come in and spar like they are fighting for their very lives.. white belts, flailing ,, spinning backfists,, kicking and punching with all their strength.. You as their partner/ instructor put up with only so much.. til you return.. Power to Power..
Oh I know we've all been there.. just spouting off
*looking at a livid purple bruise on my tricep.. and knowing StickDummy has a nasty one on his elbow from this newbie.. sheesh~!!
Because I am vehemently opposed to that mentality. The first reason behind that is because I don't want people to build up a fear of sparring. I also do not "grade" on a regular or scheduled basis. I feel sparring is essential to training at all levels. It is a significant marker of progress. The people that insist on fighting like it is a death match eventually go through the gauntlet, and then are told why they just had the snot beat out of them. Don't misunderstand, the gauntlet is a last effort scenario, after they have been told repeatedly.
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We also teach the college karate course... They get a taste of the basics and a few sparring sessions in the short semester time period.
And if we wait til they are not newbies after a few months training.. they will still be newbies when it comes to sparring.. just because they have a belt rank doesn't give them the control they need to spar an opponent. .. even isometric... it would be difficult for them to grasp the concept by hitting a bag and not being hit back..
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Kimpatsu
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You don't grade regularly? Why not?
because grading/testing should be done at the student's pace instead of at a regular time interval. They may be ready earlier or later than a set "three months" or whatever. That way, you don't push slower students into higher ranks or tests before they are ready, but you don't slow down quicker learners either.
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Kimpatsu
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Just because a grading is scheduled every three months, doesn't mean someone has to take it. So you're not pushing anybody. Your argument makes no sense.
I kind of like the idea of the head instructor telling you when he feels you are ready to test. :asian:
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Kimpatsu
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Absolutely. And with regularly scheduled gradings, you then have something to aim for.
so... if you have a grading every three months, what happens to the student who is ready in FOUR?
do you say "sorry. you have to wait two more months, because my next grading isn't for two months?" or do you test the student when they're ready?
And, as for having something to strive for, you've always got another belt to strive for. How bad the student wants it is up to them. If they really want it, they can advance quicker if they practice more and are always in class. ya see?
do you say "sorry. you have to wait two more months, because my next grading isn't for two months?" or do you test the student when they're ready?
And, as for having something to strive for, you've always got another belt to strive for. How bad the student wants it is up to them. If they really want it, they can advance quicker if they practice more and are always in class. ya see?
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Kimpatsu
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They miss the grading three months' hence and take it in six months' time.
Students don't get ready and then lose it again; enlightenment is incremental. They wait the extra two months. what's wrong with that?
I don't see where your argument is coming from. People train regularly to train, not to advance through the belts. (Although it's always great to start new techniques from the next syllabus.)
There are minimum times between gradings, which grow longer apart the higher up the ladder you go, but just because a grading has come round doesn't mean you're obligated to take it. Sensei tells you when you're ready, anyway.
AS far as I am concerned, regularly scheduled testing smacks of McDojo. I tried it, I did not like the results. A lot of the time what happens is that people work very hard to memorize certain things for testing and then promptly forget them, similiar mentality to the educational system. I do not like it. I tell my people, if you want to be promoted, you have to make me promote you. You don't test because I want a new TV. Regularly scheduled testing does not give a realisitic goal to strive for. Giving someone a syllabus and telling them that when they can do the entire course correctly, then and only then will you consider testing them is quite motivating as well. I do not assign time limits to my belts, I assign knowledge minimums. I am not Japanese nor am I Buddhist, I do not teach enlightenment, I teach American Kenpo. American Kenpo has a vast and diverse curriculuum, one doesn't memorize it and be successful, one learns it, adapts it, and is then proficient. As one's skills grow in the curriculuum, so does their rank. Making them wait til they have learned an entire belt's material does not make them better sparrers or really teach them what control is about. Everything we do is a part of a process, it does not happen over night. Part of the process is getting them into the thick of things immediately, it helps them gauge their own progress. It also allows me to see where they actually started and what I can do to help them. Some never really learn, some do. The one's that do are easy, the one's that don't sometimes have to learn that all actions have consequences. Also, a great deal of people do not train to train, if they did, we would not needa belt system. A lot of people train to get the belts.
Making them wait to spar is not the answer in my school. Teaching them to not intentionally or even accidentally hurt their training partners is.
Making them wait to spar is not the answer in my school. Teaching them to not intentionally or even accidentally hurt their training partners is.
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Kimpatsu
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What does your new TV have to do with grading? Surely holding a grading when you feel like it is more akin to financial motivations than gradings at set intervals. And do you really consider Shorinji Kempo to be a McDojo? The syllabus isn't just about technique; sensei looks at your attitude, your control, your contributions, and a whole lot of other things before saying that you're ready to grade. People can't gauge their own process as well as Sensei can; he has perspective and ability based on experience. The belt system is necessary because its when you move up a grade that the new syllabus is introduced.
If people wait three months to first engage in randori, then they have three months' worth of techniques they can apply when sparring, as opposed to none from day one.
