Chang Taiji with leg skills and variable speed

[Kung Fu Wang]

By adding leg skill, a Taiji push can become a throw.

Leg skills include front cut, slant cut, inner hook, outer hook, sickle hook, break, horseback kick, leg lift, leg twist, outer leg twist, spring, shin bite, sweep, scoop, sticky lift, knee lift, leg seize, ...

Many years ago, I had condensed 108 moves Taiji form into 48 moves Taiji form by removing the redundant. I always want to add leg skills into Taiji. I also want to change the constant Taiji speed into variable Taiji speed. I didn't do it. But my next generation take over this task. Here is the Chang Taiji with leg skills and variable speed. This task is not final. So, all opinions are welcome.

What's your opinion on this?

 

[Xue Sheng]

There are leg skills m in taijiquan already so basically you are just reinventing the wheel. There are not as many as you listed, and many of those you listed, although viable, do not fit taiji principles. So what you are doing is turning taiji back into Long fist

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

So what you are doing is turning taiji back into Long fist

When he adds leg skills into Taiji and that make Taiji into long fist, if you add leg skills into Taiji, what will you make Taiji into?

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

There are leg skills m in taijiquan already so basically you are just reinventing the wheel. There are not as many as you listed, and many of those you listed, although viable, do not fit taiji principles. So what you are doing is turning taiji back into Long fist

"Reinventing the wheel" means the wheel already exist. I have not seen "inner hook" exist in any Taiji form yet.

 

[marvin8]

"Reinventing the wheel" means the wheel already exist. I have not seen "inner hook" exist in any Taiji form yet.

Leg skill is used in MMA too. Although, this MMA lead hand push does not require leg skill.

https://imgur.com/bQaOSnz

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

Leg skill is used in MMA too. Although, this MMA lead hand push does not require leg skill.

https://imgur.com/bQaOSnz

The difference is, if you

- don't control your opponent's leg/legs, your opponent's leg/legs will be free.
- can control your opponent's leg/legs, your opponent's leg/legs will not be free.

If you can control your opponent's back leg, it's even better.

 

[Xue Sheng]

When he adds leg skills into Taiji and that make Taiji into long fist, if you add leg skills into Taiji, what will you make Taiji into?

First, IMO, the guy in the first video, his taijiquan is horrible. But to the above, it is not the addition of leg skills, it is how you add them and apply them, just because someone adds a Guillotine Choke, a mount or a Kesa-gatame into taijiquan, does not make it taijiquan. It is how it is practiced and how it is applied

 

[Xue Sheng]

"Reinventing the wheel" means the wheel already exist. I have not seen "inner hook" exist in any Taiji form yet.

Wu Style has a posture that can be used this way. I am not sure you realize that each taijiquan posture can have multiple applications....

 

[isshinryuronin]

Placing one of your legs to the inside or outside of either of the opponent's legs is always a good thing IMO.

1. It can check his ability to attack with it.
2. Pressure on it can keep the opponent from using his other leg, less he be off-balanced.
3. Stronger pressure on it can break the opponent's balance to momentarily prevent any offense or defense.
4. It adds another fulcrum point for throws or take downs.

The bonus is if you're that close to the opponent, you are probably in position for many close-range strikes. It's also a good way to neutralize/entangle a superior opponent.

 

[marvin8]

If you can control your opponent's back leg, it's even better.

In your demo, the opponent can be further away, move when you move and/or counter you. There can be more skill in leading, listening, entering, timing and take down without leg skill.

"If the opponent does not move, then I do not move. At the opponent’s slightest move, I move first." — Wu Yu-hsiang

 

[windwalker099]

If you can control your opponent's back leg, it's even better.

This teacher demonstrates leg control using what might be called:

明劲 (Míng Jìn) – Obvious Force: Emphasizing clear power and visible mechanics.

Other teachers, might demonstrate:
暗劲 (Àn Jìn) – Hidden Force: Subtle, internal power that is less visibly apparent but deeply effective.

or

化劲 (Huà Jìn) – Transforming Force: Masterful redirection or neutralization of force, showing adaptability and finesse.

Each demonstration different, yet none lacking the foundational skills of the preceding levels.

 

[windwalker099]

In your demo, the opponent can be further away, move when you move and/or counter you. There can be more skill in leading, listening, entering, timing and take down without leg skill.

"If the opponent does not move, then I do not move. At the opponent’s slightest move, I move first." — Wu Yu-hsiang

If one were to identify a limitation for many in Taiji training, it would be the orientation towards push hands, a big factor lacking the focus on essential elements like leading, listening, entering, and timing.