It's the same technique in Judo and in BJJ. It's grappling regardless.Maybe they teach o-soto-gari differenty in BJJ. In Japanese martial arts, this is o-soto-gari:
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It's the same technique in Judo and in BJJ. It's grappling regardless.Maybe they teach o-soto-gari differenty in BJJ. In Japanese martial arts, this is o-soto-gari:
Think about all the times you had school fights in high school. Are you telling me you've never done o-soto-gari on someone outside of training? It's my experience that tossing someone at the ground has a way of scaring the fight from most.
It's the same technique in Judo and in BJJ. It's grappling regardless.
Really? In my 36 years of martial arts training, I've never seen throws classified as anything but grappling. In fact, they make up one of the primary aspects of grappling.Well, in all my experience with martial arts I've never seen throws classified as grappling.
Yep. Can't perform Osoto-gari without a grappling move. Have to grab the opponent and that is when it is a grapple. I also think the above video isn't a very good example of osoto-gari...should be a leg reap and not off the hip. At least the way I learned it, osoto-gari is a major leg reap maybe I'm misinformed.It's the same technique in Judo and in BJJ. It's grappling regardless.
Especially if one doesn't know how to grapple being on the ground is a bad place to be.Well, in all my experience with martial arts I've never seen throws classified as grappling. My point is that rolling on the ground with a mugger is a bad decision and it should be avoided if possible.
If someone attacks me, I WILL hurt them in the worst way possible (unless it's at gunpoint). It's self-defense. That's what most martial arts are for, it's for injuring the attacker. Whether he/she has a weak heart, doesn't matter, because how are you supposed to know that? I doubt you'll get into trouble for it... Well, here in SA you might, but that's a subject I won't discuss here. I will still defend myself in whichever way I can, whether I get into trouble or not. NO mercy for the wicked, is what I say.
Once I did a finger lock and the guy pretended the finger was broken. I paniqued for a moment, big trouble to come, but then reviewing what I did I was quite sure the finger was fine. And it was.Have you ever really crippled someone in a fight. To the point where you are wondering if you killed them?
Well, in all my experience with martial arts I've never seen throws classified as grappling. My point is that rolling on the ground with a mugger is a bad decision and it should be avoided if possible.
I’m not a BJJ guy. I learned osoto gari in Judo. Judo is grappling.Maybe they teach o-soto-gari differenty in BJJ. In Japanese martial arts, this is o-soto-gari:
In all my experience in martial arts, I’ve always heard them classified as grappling.Well, in all my experience with martial arts I've never seen throws classified as grappling. My point is that rolling on the ground with a mugger is a bad decision and it should be avoided if possible.
Maybe. Most people have no clue how to protect their head when they fall.Why? You achieve a null effect. You throw them down. They stand back up. You are back to 50/50.
Sez you.Also, it's performed following a strike or series of strikes. You can't just walk up and perform it.
It is performed from a body-clash with a "grapple" grip so there's a case to be made that it can be considered grappling.Maybe they teach o-soto-gari differenty in BJJ. In Japanese martial arts, this is o-soto-gari:
This is a vid of o soto gari.I dont think that is technically osotogari when you use the hip.
I disagree about your attacker "deserving" a broken arm or a broken neck. It's foolish to go straight for a lethal technique when a less lethal will suffice.
You and I must be cut from different moral cloths.
Well, in all my experience with martial arts I've never seen throws classified as grappling. My point is that rolling on the ground with a mugger is a bad decision and it should be avoided if possible.
Agreed. I'll avoid hurting him if I see a clear path to doing so. If I don't, I'll use what seems necessary to terminate the attack and make myself safe. If a simple takedown and pin seems likely to do the job, bully. If it doesn't, someone is likely to get hurt. Since I didn't choose this dangerous situation, I'd prefer any injuries incurred happen to the one who did.Probably need to add me to that.
But it just seems strange; I will go way out of my way to avoid a fight. But I run out of options if I am attacked. I have to defend myself or suffer unknowable consequences. Personally I prefer self defense. Part of that is to ensure my opponent either doesn't want to attack me again, or is incapable of attacking me again. If I keep simply avoiding an attack, or using techniques that simply stop my opponent, he will likely continue attacking. With enough attempts, he may get lucky. Why would I want that?