It's a lot, but I went back to read through every one of the posts in this merry go round exchange. In your post below, you clearly reference the decision making process you use in your aikido training. It's literally spelled out below.
Now, here I'll take responsibility for asking the wrong question. I asked the following:
That was actually a rhetorical question, because, as I posted above, you clearly did. Now, you acknowledge this later, but for now, I asked a yes or no question, and you pulled a trump. You said:
Sure. I agree that this is odd, which is precisely why I asked the initial question. But what I really should have asked is why you are making this comparison, which we both agree is odd.
Sure, in an aikido class, this may be true. How much experience do you have with MMA again? So, I replied:
In the post above, the point I was trying to make is that you are trying to apply the ethics of training aikido with other middle aged, white collar workers to the ethics of elite level combat athlete who are working for a paycheck. Context matters.
This is the, "it's my opinion, and I'm entitled to it," cop out. So, I said:
For what it's worth, I think that my post above remains very apropos, considering your previous post was the functional equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and saying, "lalalala. I can't hear you."
I thought this was odd. Like has nothing to do with it, but I will note that this is when you started personalizing things.
I missed this the first time. Had I seen it, I would freely have acknowledged it was a tangent and has nothing to do with MMA fights. You, on the other hand, are digging in your heels and making things personal. But if it makes you feel better, good one. You're very clever.
Still true. You continue to deflect.
Well, going back, I have to admit. You did answer, and while "like" is subjective and makes things personal, which this isn't (at least on my side of it), your answer to the rhetorical question I originally posed is not true on the face of it, because you clearly did, in your original post, compare your experiences as a middle aged, white collar, aikido instructor to elite level, professional MMA.
In my defense, in the post above, I didn't recognize your initial post as an answer. So, sure, you said, "nope." You later agreed that it would be odd. But to clarify, the question for discussion relates to your belief that the ethics of your training correlates in some way to the ethics of a high level, professional MMA bout. You haven't answered that yet.
Well, hopefully we can both agree now that you clearly did, which led to this rabbit hole we're currently in.Right. I was trying to understand what about your training is similar to a professional MMA bout. The contexts are very different, which makes the entire decision making process different. This is what I meant when I said:
Ah, more evasiveness. So, I explain the inconsistency again:
To spell it out, after the ellipses (plus a period/full stop for the brits), the unstated part is, "your posts are internally inconsistent."
You're just screwing with me at this point, saying the opposite of what I say.
And here we are. You're getting much more personal, and acting, frankly, like kind of a baby about this. I'm hoping that by posting the entire sad affair in one contiguous post with some cliff notes attached, you will get over yourself and decide if you'd like to have an adult discussion or have a pity party and continue feeling sorry for yourself.