KempoGuy06
Grandmaster
Thats a bummer, I might have to show that to my instructor or just keep it in my arsenal as an extra tool.
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Are lapel grabs realistic attacks?
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celtic_crippler
Senior Master
Dude...it's not like the tech's copyrighted. If you like it and/or find it useful, take it and use it.
KempoGuy06
Grandmaster
will do. it seems like it would be more effective that some of the stuff i have
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Kembudo-Kai Kempoka
Senior Master
Here's a cleaner entry from a different lineage. I personally teach it with the low kick blended to stepping in, striking the inside of the knee first to disrupt his balance and stretch him out a bit (elongation), raking the foot down the inside of the shin on the way to the floor to collect his thoughts away from what my upper body is fixin to do, and stomping the foot to the ground authroitatively with his toes or arch in the way, just to rub salt in the wound annd keep his attention distracted. The first strike with the hands is timed to make contact to his head at the same time the foot stomp hits.
Additionally, target selection matters quite a bit. A hammerfist to the cheekbone is wasted time...too soft a weapon (for beginners...this is a white belt technique in American Kenpo) to too non-critical of a target. I aim for the temporomandibular joint and thrust my blow rearward and accross his midline & down to a space behind his right shoulder, and rake the weapon across the bad guys gace to whip his head at the neck, effecting a whiplash to mess with his vision, balance, and posture. Makes for a nice opening move to end an initial assault. Also ends up counting as "attacking his nervous system" by going after vestibular and proprioceptive effects, instead of just blunt trauma.
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Additionally, target selection matters quite a bit. A hammerfist to the cheekbone is wasted time...too soft a weapon (for beginners...this is a white belt technique in American Kenpo) to too non-critical of a target. I aim for the temporomandibular joint and thrust my blow rearward and accross his midline & down to a space behind his right shoulder, and rake the weapon across the bad guys gace to whip his head at the neck, effecting a whiplash to mess with his vision, balance, and posture. Makes for a nice opening move to end an initial assault. Also ends up counting as "attacking his nervous system" by going after vestibular and proprioceptive effects, instead of just blunt trauma.
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SA_BJJ
Blue Belt
Very nice!!!
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kenpo3631
Black Belt
I like Mace of Aggression. The principle of Purposeful Compliance (Yielding to pressure an opponent exerts against your body in order to utilize the force exerted against them) is wonderful. I however teach it differently than what some have posted. I utilize an inward downward diagonal raking back knuckle, striking the opponent's temple, eye, bridge of the nose. That motion carries downward and ends up striking the opponent's left forearm (radial nerve) giving me a check on his height & width. I couple all of that with a right stomp to the opponents right foot.
Ok don't tell anybody this is a big secret but try #2 (usually against a punch) against a one or two hand lapel grab and see if you find any similarities in the two techniques. Now be warned there are people out there that will call this sacrelage and there are no such relations between the two (or other) systems of kenpo/kempo or any other such systems. But then again sometimes the proof is just staring ya right in the face.
Groan... not the best example but yeah.
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A little over reach but better.
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Great story!! I'm glad that your student is ok. As for the nature of the attack...yes, I agree it is a very realistic attack. What I like about that, is the fact that the bad guy ties up one or in this case, both of his hands. Pin those hands and basically you're free to punish them at will.
Come on now...EVERYBODY knows that kenpo and other TMA's don't work in real life because NOBODY grabs your clothing...I mean you NEVER see two MMA guys try a lapel grab. REAL fights start with both people squaring off from 8-10 feet away in speedos with a guy yelling "Let's get it on!"
LMAO!!! Yes, and don't forget, if its not on tape, it never happened. Proof dammit....its all about the proof.
Doc
Senior Master
Come on now...EVERYBODY knows that kenpo and other TMA's don't work in real life because NOBODY grabs your clothing...I mean you NEVER see two MMA guys try a lapel grab. REAL fights start with both people squaring off from 8-10 feet away in speedos with a guy yelling "Let's get it on!"
Well I'll never get into a"real fight." Speedos? No way brother. Not on my fat ***.
KempoGuy06
Grandmaster
Showed this little move to some of the guys at the dojo last night. They were all really impressed.
We worked SD drills last night and I supprised the black belt by using this one instead of one of my regulars and he was like "holy crap! who taught you that". So I explained it and we worked it together with one of the green belts.
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We worked SD drills last night and I supprised the black belt by using this one instead of one of my regulars and he was like "holy crap! who taught you that". So I explained it and we worked it together with one of the green belts.
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