Are lapel grabs realistic attacks?

[celtic_crippler]

You better believe it!

Funny thing happened to a student of mine last Friday....and I was wondering why he wasn't in class....

He had his vehicle struck in a parking lot which escalated into a physical confrontation.

He was actually trying to be nice at the time as he was backing out of a space and noticed the car behind him doing the same so he stopped to allow them to go ahead.

They hit his car anyway. He got out to check the damage and the other fella' came out cussin' and fussin'.

My student asked the guy to calm down and pointed out there was no real damage, but he said it was a young guy (19-20 perhaps) and he had his friends with him so I can imagine the fella was puttin' on a show for his homies.

He made the mistake of grabbing my student's jacket and yanking him in. My student said all he could remember thinking was "Mace of Aggression." LOL

Anyway, the poor boy dropped with the initial punch. My student said he couldn't have pulled him into the follow up elbow even if he wanted.... he said the guy went completely limp when he connected with his chin and dropped straight to the ground. ROFL

He said the guys buddies were like "Holy....!" My student helped them load the unconcious ill-tempered dude back into his car before they all left. Hey, I teach my students to be courteous after all...

BTW...he's a yellow belt who was just introduced to the technique "Mace of Aggression" a few weeks ago! Nice to see he's been practicing.

 

[hkfuie]

I am just learning Kenpo and I love "Mace of Aggression." Thanks for a great story. Yeah, THAT's martial courtesy all right! Sounds like he's really internalized that technique!

 

[Twin Fist]

nice!!

 

[KempoGuy06]

good story

B

 

[exile]

I love it!

There's plenty of good documented research on the frequency of grabs (including lapel grabs) as violence initiators in street attacks, and yes, they really do occur a lot. Probably the single most common move to begin an assault is a grab-and-punch. Train students to react fast and hard to the main grabs, and you've probably given them most of what they need to go home in one piece... the other guy, not so much! :lol:

 

[terryl965]

Very nice story Thanks

 

[Sukerkin]

Now, now. We've all been told many times that Martial Art's don't work 'on the street' ... :angel: :lol:.

 

[Brian R. VanCise]

I have seen several lapel grabs, had someone try one on me and also used it a couple of times myself way back in the day. Practicing defense for a lapel grab is definitely important!

 

[Gordon Nore]

"Mace of Aggression"

I'm not familiar with this term/technique.

I've been taught a number of defenses arising from different kinds of lapel grabs. In fact, we teach a couple of basic, low-maintenance defenses on the first day.

 

[seasoned]

I'm also not familiar with this term/technique.

 

[Ninjamom]

Found this on YouTube:

Mace of Aggression

 

[Gordon Nore]

Found this on YouTube:

Mace of Aggression

Ahhh. I use a back-fast to the beak. Then I take a step back and twist wrists one way or the other. But the MoA will certainly mess up someone's day too.

As to the specific terminology, does Mace of Aggression have Asian roots or is that a convention of American Kenpo?

 

[Drac]

Practicing defense for a lapel grab is definitely important!

We have quite a few of those in the Combat Hapkido curiculum..

 

[KenpoDave]

So, his excuse for missing class...

"I bumped into a guy who wanted to learn Mace of Aggression!"

 

[Twin Fist]

As to the specific terminology, does Mace of Aggression have Asian roots or is that a convention of American Kenpo?

In American Kenpo, "mace" refers to a closed fist

 

[jks9199]

Lapel grabs apply to many situations, not merely someone grabbing your lapel. The same defenses often can be used against a push or shove, or even a punch to the chest.

 

[KempoGuy06]

Found this on YouTube:

Mace of Aggression

I like that a lot. Does anyone know if that is in SKK? Ive never seen that. Is it maybe taught at a higher rank? thanks

B

 

[celtic_crippler]

Repetition is the key.

We'd been working that tech all week so it was kinda' ironic that he would be attacked that way when he was. Bad timing for Mr. Temper. LOL

 

[punisher73]

Come on now...EVERYBODY knows that kenpo and other TMA's don't work in real life because NOBODY grabs your clothing...I mean you NEVER see two MMA guys try a lapel grab. REAL fights start with both people squaring off from 8-10 feet away in speedos with a guy yelling "Let's get it on!"

 

[JTKenpo]

I like that a lot. Does anyone know if that is in SKK? Ive never seen that. Is it maybe taught at a higher rank? thanks

B

No, it is an American Kenpo tech.