Yes, my heart goes out as well!
Another school shooting... damn it....
- Thread starter Kacey
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It was my hope they blew him outta his socks...Forgive my anger..Probably not the best thing for an LEO to post but it makes me ****ing ANGRY...
JBrainard
Senior Master
You gotta remember though, this kid was obviously f'd up in the head. Maybe is someone (LIKE HIS PARENTS) had showed him some compasion for what he must have been going through leading up to this event, it never would have happened. Just my two cents...
Very sad. My heart goes out to the families of all involved.
Blotan Hunka said:
I think it's a combination of both actually. I think things are definitely getting worse for many reasons, and also we now hear about so much more. The scary thing to think about is how much stuff we DON'T hear about...and there is plenty.
Yes, this really is a sad, sad situation. However, anytime things like this happen, I often find myself thinking the same comment as whats quoted above. I'm not a social worker, or M.D., but IMO, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that these kids obviously had some sort of issues that were seriously going un-noticed! I grew up watching cartoons, saw the animated characters falling off a cliff, holding an explosive and getting 'blown up', watched horror flicks, and listened to rock music, and I never ran around the house, chasing after my younger sister with a knife, I never brought weapons to school or shown any signs that I was a violent person.
Family and school workers should be able to see signs that there is an issue with their child. Unfortunately, as it was already said, someone will find something else to blame.
Mike
Condolences go to Ms. Keyes' family.
It has been suggested that the creep sexually assaulted the girls:
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_5024828,00.html
If this is true, I strongly doubt that anyone can blame any medications that this pile of scum was taking. None that I know of, makes someone want to commit sexual assault against a child. Given that he had isolated 6 girls, and told the boys to get out, I find it difficult to dismiss the above possibility.
People can try to blame medications, drugs, video games, guns, etc., all they want... The bottom line is that this pile of garbage made a conscious decision to commit crimes of a terrible nature, and is the sole source of blame.
We can try to talk about "what if's" all day long, but that still doesn't change the fact that a perverted middle-aged pedophile made the cognitive choice to do the deed.
On another note, at least the police response and communication was better this time. From the article:
It has been suggested that the creep sexually assaulted the girls:
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_5024828,00.html
If this is true, I strongly doubt that anyone can blame any medications that this pile of scum was taking. None that I know of, makes someone want to commit sexual assault against a child. Given that he had isolated 6 girls, and told the boys to get out, I find it difficult to dismiss the above possibility.
People can try to blame medications, drugs, video games, guns, etc., all they want... The bottom line is that this pile of garbage made a conscious decision to commit crimes of a terrible nature, and is the sole source of blame.
We can try to talk about "what if's" all day long, but that still doesn't change the fact that a perverted middle-aged pedophile made the cognitive choice to do the deed.
On another note, at least the police response and communication was better this time. From the article:
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bydand
Senior Master
Nothing to forgive about your anger. Last time I checked LEO's were human as well (some less so than others...:uhyeah
and given that, fact I would be more worried if you could turn off that side. I would hope they did the same!My heart goes out to the families involved.
Kacey, the first person I thought of when I heard of another school shooting in CO. was you and hoped it wasn't at your facility. Glad to know it wasn't, sad to know it happened ANYWHERE.
Nothing to forgive about your anger. Last time I checked LEO's were human as well (some less so than others...:uhyeah
Thanks..
bydand said:
Same here..
bydand said:
Ya beat me expressing those same sentiments]
pirate wyatt
White Belt
it happened within two hours from Columbine also
My heart also goes out to the deceased girl and her family.The surviving hostage must also be traumatized as well; no amount of therapy is going to make her forget that day.
That about says it ....
OP
OP
Thanks, I appreciate that, truly... and it's not that far; not really any farther than Columbine; one of my coworkers owns a house in Bailey.
To those who were concerned about the identity, age, and potential medication status of this "kid", he has been identified as
No mention was made of medication, at least not in the article I read, but they are updating constantly.
The following was posted on our district's email intranet this morning:
It concerns me that we live in a society where schools are no longer safe for the staff or students, where we must be wary of the very community members we exist to serve.
Those safety tips should be sent to *every* school in the country.
mrhnau
Senior Master
I have a feeling they are. At least every school in my district has something like that, plans for what to do in an emergency situation like this. I'd be suprised if there are many schools that do not have some form of plan...
However, sadly even the best plans are not going to stop certain determined wackos.
Blotan Hunka
Master Black Belt
OP
OP
Actually, they've been sent out before - and before Columbine, too. This was a reminder of pre-existing procedures.
They were? Because I haven't seen those procedures followed in any of the public schools I've visited. The high schools have metal detectors, but they don't pick up *every* single kind of weapon.
OP
OP
I didn't say the policies were enforced... just that they existed. As I said before, it concerns me that we need such policies in schools; I understand it, but I don't like that it is necessary.
