5 reasons TaeKwonDo as a system (not individual techniques) breaks down in a Muay Thai ring

[Axiom]

This needs to be shown, it's a crime:

Old vs modern WTF training

 

[Gerry Seymour]

Most of that takes too long to pull off and is heavily telegraphed, but I do believe an old school master of that generation can pull off an upset with a conservative kick. But I'm also aware that they might not survive the inside boxing and be KO:ed inside a round or two.. Love to see it though. They trained for power back in those day, dedicately.

And you think nobody in TKD today does?

 

[TrueJim]

Actually, my methodology was EXTREMELY scientific. I used precisely the same Google-search methodology that Albert Einstein employed for finding brownie recipes.

If you merely search on three words "muay" , "thai" , "sucks" , Google will give you every page that includes any of those three words.

But if you instead perform the Google search enclosing all three words in quotes "muay thai sucks" , Google will prioritize the pages that have that exact phrase: those three words in precisely that order. (reference: Refine web searches - Google Search Help)

I did not invent this search technique. Madame Curie did. It's the same technique that she used to discover glow sticks. As I said, this is all very scientific, and doubtless over the head of some of my readers.

I repeated this experiment using a number of different martial arts names, and these are the results that I obtained:

Kung Fu sucks = 59,400 results
Muay Thai sucks = 17,600 results
Jiu Jitsu sucks = 3,760 results
Karate sucks = 2,570 results
Taekwondo sucks = 979 results
BJJ sucks = 575 results
Judo sucks = 523 results
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu sucks = 8 results

As we can see from these numerical results, the RS (the ratio of suckage) between Muay Thai and Taekwondo is:

17,600
RS = ------------ ~ 17.9775280899
979

Note that you achieve this same numerical value for RS whether you're using Celsius or Fahrenheit, a consequence of Isaac Newtons now-famous Principle of Muay Thai Suckage. (reference: Isaac Newton - Wikipedia)

From this we can conclude that muay thai has a Coefficient of Suckage that is nearly 18 times higher (that's 00010010 in binary, for all of you computers that are reading this post) than the CoS of taekwondo.

Ergo, muay thai sucks, taekwondo rules, and Axiom's momma still dresses him funny. I rest my case. QED. Quod Erat Demonstrandum. Void where prohibited. May cause drowsiness.

Respectfully Submitted,
Dr. Jim, Ph.D.

 

[Axiom]

And you think nobody in TKD today does?

Nah, they aren't gunning for each other anymore. I should also be perfectly clear being a power kicker myself that it does not guarantee victory even if it lands. I have bruised my buddy simply from holding kicking shields, yet the kickboxer from Serbia could take it midsection and continue to spar me... I hit him clean and really drove into his body ( he had humiliated me a few days earlier and fights like it's for real).

You can hear one dude blasting kicking shields in practice, and it's only me. Lesson learned: Never expect anything until you've demonstrated it. I get motivated from that Kickboxer. If I had knocked him down, my progress might have stopped. Now I'm never satisfied until he goes down.

 

[Dirty Dog]

Well, his aerial kick at: 0:45 was not exactly trivial, especially concidering his background in ITF. And he did it well!

Right. Because wafer boards require so much ability to break. Kicks like that demonstrate gymnastic ability, not martial arts ability.

 

[Dirty Dog]

Well, his aerial kick at: 0:45 was not exactly trivial, especially concidering his background in ITF. And he did it well!

Right. Because wafer boards require so much ability to break. Kicks like that demonstrate gymnastic ability, not martial arts ability.

 

[Axiom]

Actually, my methodology was EXTREMELY scientific. I used precisely the same Google-search methodology that Albert Einstein employed for finding brownie recipes.

If you merely search on three words "muay" , "thai" , "sucks" , Google will give you every page that includes any of those three words.

But if you instead perform the Google search enclosing all three words in quotes "muay thai sucks" , Google will prioritize the pages that have that exact phrase: those three words in precisely that order. (reference: Refine web searches - Google Search Help)

I did not invent this search technique. Madame Curie did. It's the same technique that she used to discover glow sticks. As I said, this is all very scientific, and doubtless over the head of some of my readers.

I repeated this experiment using a number of different martial arts names, and these are the results that I obtained:

Kung Fu sucks = 59,400 results
Muay Thai sucks = 17,600 results
Jiu Jitsu sucks = 3,760 results
Karate sucks = 2,570 results
Taekwondo sucks = 979 results
BJJ sucks = 575 results
Judo sucks = 523 results
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu sucks = 8 results

As we can see from these numerical results, the RS (the ratio of suckage) between Muay Thai and Taekwondo is:

17,600
RS = ------------ ~ 17.9775280899
979

Note that you achieve this same numerical value for RS whether you're using Celsius or Fahrenheit, a consequence of Isaac Newtons now-famous Principle of Muay Thai Suckage. (reference: Isaac Newton - Wikipedia)

From this we can conclude that muay thai has a Coefficient of Suckage that is nearly 18 times higher (that's 00010010 in binary, for all of you computers that are reading this post) than the CoS of taekwondo.

Ergo, muay thai sucks, taekwondo rules, and Axiom's momma still dresses him funny. I rest my case. QED. Quod Erat Demonstrandum. Void where prohibited. May cause drowsiness.

Respectfully Submitted,
Dr. Jim, Ph.D.

Hits include: Muay Thai boxing sucks, this or that sucks, all in conjuction with Muay Thai

 

[Axiom]

Right. Because wafer boards require so much ability to break. Kicks like that demonstrate gymnastic ability, not martial arts ability.

I am very impressed with an ITF instructor performing aerials at that level. Not saying ITF masters suck at gymnastics but it isn't their strong point normally, despite flashy black belt forms. There's just too much packaged in ITF, and a traditional emphasis, that people don't waste time on aerial refinements.

And some WTF guys likes to point out how weak ITF guys are at kicking, so always nice to shut them up

 

[Gerry Seymour]

Nah, they aren't gunning for each other anymore. I should also be perfectly clear being a power kicker myself that it does not guarantee victory even if it lands. I have bruised my buddy simply from holding kicking shields, yet the kickboxer from Serbia could take it midsection and continue to spar me... I hit him clean and really drove into his body ( he had humiliated me a few days earlier and fights like it's for real).

You can hear one dude blasting kicking shields in practice, and it's only me. Lesson learned: Never expect anything until you've demonstrated it. I get motivated from that Kickboxer. If I had knocked him down, my progress might have stopped. Now I'm never satisfied until he goes down.

Wait, did you just say nobody works on power in TKD, then IMMEDIATELY turn around and say that you (a TKD student) work on power????

 

[Gerry Seymour]

I am very impressed with an ITF instructor performing aerials at that level. Not saying ITF masters suck at gymnastics but it isn't their strong point normally, despite flashy black belt forms. There's just too much packaged in ITF, and a traditional emphasis, that people don't waste time on aerial refinements.

And some WTF guys likes to point out how weak ITF guys are at kicking, so always nice to shut them up

See, now you're finally supporting your original argument. This attitude (the one in your post) is as likely to degrade fighting ability as anything you posted.

 

[Gnarlie]

No it's not. Workout Programs

Might as well be...the language used fits, and I assign his opinion just as much credibility as I assign yours and Martialartstutor's. I. E. ZeRO!

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[TrueJim]

Hits include: Muay Thai boxing sucks, this or that sucks, all in conjuction with Muay Thai

Nope, you're just ignorant. If Google returned the page, then somewhere on that page somebody typed "muay thai sucks". You have to keep reading down the page to find where.

Go ahead, we'll wait.

 

[MA_Student]

This is just getting silly now it's not even funny

 

[Dirty Dog]

I am very impressed with an ITF instructor performing aerials at that level. Not saying ITF masters suck at gymnastics but it isn't their strong point normally, despite flashy black belt forms. There's just too much packaged in ITF, and a traditional emphasis, that people don't waste time on aerial refinements.

And some WTF guys likes to point out how weak ITF guys are at kicking, so always nice to shut them up

Because breaking wafer boards shows you're NOT weak?
#doublefacepalm

 

[Axiom]

Wait, did you just say nobody works on power in TKD, then IMMEDIATELY turn around and say that you (a TKD student) work on power????

I have it naturally due to blessed genetics. A so called outlier. My buddy bet that nobody would be standing if my turning kick lands. I tried it on a Kickboxer with full conctact fights in Serbia and I didn't knock him down So maybe the kicking shields lie, or I didn't get it perfect.. Hard to say in the middle of the fight.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

Because breaking wafer boards shows you're NOT weak?
#doublefacepalm

Careful, DD, you're going to run out of palms to face.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

I have it naturally due to blessed genetics. A so called outlier. My buddy bet that nobody would be standing if my turning kick lands. I tried it on a Kickboxer with full conctact fights in Serbia and I didn't knock him down So maybe the kicking shields lie, or I didn't get it perfect.. Hard to say in the middle of the fight.

So, because yours was easier to gain, you think nobody in TKD works on power?

 

[Axiom]

So, because yours was easier to gain, you think nobody in TKD works on power?

You didn't happen to open the clip I posted of old vs new WTF training? They have the greatest talent pool and you can take a look for yourself what they're up to.

 

[Buka]

This needs to be shown, it's a crime:

Old vs modern WTF training

What's with the one foot in the bucket thing? I'm not familiar with that.

And True Jim's "Coefficient of Suckage" was awesome. That whole post was awesome.

 

[Axiom]

Because breaking wafer boards shows you're NOT weak?
#doublefacepalm

Sounds like sour grapes on your part. Are you by any chance jealous of GM Kim Ung Chol?

 

[Axiom]

Hah! Kim Ung Chol is the Vice President of my federation. Was wondering who that guy was...

 

[Axiom]

Actually, my methodology was EXTREMELY scientific. I used precisely the same Google-search methodology that Albert Einstein employed for finding brownie recipes.

If you merely search on three words "muay" , "thai" , "sucks" , Google will give you every page that includes any of those three words.

But if you instead perform the Google search enclosing all three words in quotes "muay thai sucks" , Google will prioritize the pages that have that exact phrase: those three words in precisely that order. (reference: Refine web searches - Google Search Help)

I did not invent this search technique. Madame Curie did. It's the same technique that she used to discover glow sticks. As I said, this is all very scientific, and doubtless over the head of some of my readers.

I repeated this experiment using a number of different martial arts names, and these are the results that I obtained:

Kung Fu sucks = 59,400 results
Muay Thai sucks = 17,600 results
Jiu Jitsu sucks = 3,760 results
Karate sucks = 2,570 results
Taekwondo sucks = 979 results
BJJ sucks = 575 results
Judo sucks = 523 results
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu sucks = 8 results

As we can see from these numerical results, the RS (the ratio of suckage) between Muay Thai and Taekwondo is:

17,600
RS = ------------ ~ 17.9775280899
979

Note that you achieve this same numerical value for RS whether you're using Celsius or Fahrenheit, a consequence of Isaac Newtons now-famous Principle of Muay Thai Suckage. (reference: Isaac Newton - Wikipedia)

From this we can conclude that muay thai has a Coefficient of Suckage that is nearly 18 times higher (that's 00010010 in binary, for all of you computers that are reading this post) than the CoS of taekwondo.

Ergo, muay thai sucks, taekwondo rules, and Axiom's momma still dresses him funny. I rest my case. QED. Quod Erat Demonstrandum. Void where prohibited. May cause drowsiness.

Respectfully Submitted,
Dr. Jim, Ph.D.

Nerd alert.