okay, like you, i will try not to be biased.
I don't necessarily agree with everything that you have said. Firstly, the thing about taken less damage from falls can not be disputed, it's just something you see every day. Because of that, even though a bigger guy may be able to force more weight on to you, the smaller guy's ability to take more damage helps to counter balance that.
I never disputed that. I was mostly disputing that the skull and ribs wouldnt be involved in the matter.
Also, you are putting too much emphasis on brute strength.
It happens to be a benefit of being big and strong, without necessarily mass.
The amount of body weight you have may have an effect on the force of your punch ( if you are trained ) but it does not effect your actual natural strength.
Thats also a part of My point.
Neither does height. It seems to me ( I may be wrong ) that you equate body size with actual strength,
No. I am not. At all. I said numerous times that bulk is totally different to strength, and that even weightlifters do seperate exercises for each. And that most Boxers are NOT bulky. Re-read the last bits.
and the ability to deliver force. put two people, one short one tall and neither have ever done any weight lifting in their life, in front of a barbell and they will both have equal difficulty lifting it.
Exactly! I think You may have missed a big part of My reply, or misunderstood it. This is exactly what Im trying to say here.
Put a bigger man and smaller man on the same workout regiment and have each follow it to the letter, and they would both be pretty much equal in strength.
Yes!
Their bodies would look different sure, but that's mostly the exterior. Just like you mentioned Rampage Jackson, I can also mention Manny Pacquiao. Just because he is a smaller man does that necessarily make him weaker? No.
You literally just pointed out how I mentioned Rampage Jackson, as an example of everything Youre saying!
Just because his biceps are smaller than Rampage's does that make he weaker? Not necessarily.
Yes again! I used Rampage Jackson because His arms aint that big.
His arms are also smaller, and thus the muscle will be proportionally smaller in comparison, but the actual strength within the muscle may just be exactly equal.
Exactly again. Like I said. Bulk =/= Strength.
Just look at primates. Monkeys are smaller than us by a lot, but ask anyone who's ever been mauled by one if they are "weak" just because their arms are smaller and you will have a unanimous answer.
I'll give you leverage. But they have to know how to use it.
Same as a smaller man having to know how to use their own advantages.
A collar hold can be broken just like a choke hold or anything else. I myself am a lightweight ( 130 pounds, 5'6 ) so it would easy for someone to muscle me around. But I also know of people my size who are 180 pounds and well built. If this guy was wrestling a taller man, the size difference wouldn't matter much. So for that one, I guess it depends more on body type.
For reference, Im 6"1, like I said. Im also only 66kg, despite having a pretty muscular build.
Finally, the get on the inside thing...you make it out to be much harder than it is honestly.
Im not, actually. Thats just one of those majiggys that can be caused by text. I was saying its harder, not that its hard. I was saying that a smaller man needs to learn how to do it, in and of itself. For us bigger men, We dont have to learn it at all. We just do it. (Pretty much)
Like I said, I'm short, and maybe it's just me, but it's really not THAT difficult to slip into a guard. What you find is that shorter people are more counter fighters instead of very offensive ones.
My point again. You get good at these things because You need to. Not so much because You want to. Its an attempt (and a successful one at that) to balance out the taller mans advantages.
We will wait for you to strike, block or avoid or parry and then move in with our own combos very quickly.
Yes. Now, would You suggest being smaller, and just assuming a high guard, and allowing the blow to hit, then having a little stand and bang with a taller man?
It's something I've noticed with all shorter people. We aren't really slipping through a guard so much as waiting for that guard to open.
Exactly again.
When you are my size or around it, you learn to work off of the broken rhythm. To create a defensive guard that allows you to strike quickly and easily yet still vary your moves so as not to be anticipated. Once, your opponent strikes you move in. In the ring, you may have to do this tons of times sure like you said, but on the streets? I'm going to move in with timing, strike you, and then probably sweep you to the ground and either finish you with a good stomp or two to the gut and run, or pin you to the floor with a good knee or other body parts on your upper chest/shoulders. You only need to get in once if you do it right.
Exactly again. Also, those stomps? Part of the point I was making is, someone bigger will be stomping harder, since their leg is picked up higher. BUT, in order for You to do the same, youd have to jump, or spring first. It works both ways. You just have to do it differently to get the same effect - Or, be satisfied with the equally effective, but perhaps less forceful blow.
Now to eliminate bias, i am NOT saying that taller bigger people can not employ the exact same tactic. They can, and they just might do it. But it's not THAT difficult to slip through guard or guard against strikes from a bigger person as you say.
If anything, its more that its harder for tall people.
It's difficult at first yes, but so is getting to the tucked in chin of a smaller guy in his stance.
Of course. You can batter his arms a bit though, if You get busy. Sore arms are not fun.
Getting through guard is difficult for BOTH fighters. Not just one. It's only a little harder for smaller guys.
In a way. For taller Fighters, theyre almost always within range of each other. The smaller gentleman is either just outside the tallers range, or uncomfortably close. That said, I havent had such an issue, as Im an Infighter.
Not to mention, the untrained fighter isn't going to know how to use that arm length. He's most likely just going to swing and move forward, which kind of negates the whole distance thing.
To be fair, Were not exactly discussing the Untrained in this Thread, since its asking about Martial Arts. But yes, thats true.
