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Does anyone know Mr. Rainey's linage?
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trotter said:Does anyone know Mr. Rainey's linage?
Hey Rich, I really would like to get in touch with AC. Haven't seen him since he trained with me back before there was fire.Rich_Hale said:Hi Trottter,
AC (as he was known back then) came in to my studio in Anchorage, Alaska around 1980. He introduced himself as a Kenpo black belt and was looking for a studio to work out in. I asked if he knew Mr. Parker and he said he did, so as we talked I picked up my phone and started to dial.
He looked at me like I was being a little rude, but kept the conversation going. Then I raised my hand, slightly, to indicate I needed a moment to talk to the person on the other end of the line, and said, "Hello Mr. Parker, Rich Hale. I have a guy in my office named AC Rainey and he says he is one of yours." Mr. Parker says, "Put him on the line!!!"
Now, AC is stumbling all over himself (in a fun way). He's saying Yes Mr. Parker, Yes sir, yes sir, yes, no sir, yes sir. The only complete sentences he got out was, No sir, I'll never be out of touch for so long again. Yes sir, I'll keep in touch and always let you know where I am and what I'm doing. Okay sir, yes sir, thank you.
Then Mr. Parker hung up and AC handed me back the phone. I kind of smiled and said, Well, I guess you really do know Mr. Parker don't you.
That evening AC walked out on our mat for the first time, as a guest, and from then on, as our head instructor. I received a black from AC about a year, or so, later. Then a couple years after that, when I was moving to California, I turned all our students over to AC and he opened a studio of his own.
Anyone who has ever worked out with AC, or even seen him move is more than impressed. To me - he's family.
Michael trained with me for a period as well.Rich_Hale said:Michael Rainey is AC's kid brother, and he was trained to kill . . . I mean, taught the art of Kenpo by AC himself. I'll see what I can do about getting AC into the forum.Don't worry about the Ed Parker magazines, I never bid much on Ebay. I just bid and walk away. Every now and then I get something cool at a fair price.
Ah the good old participation award ranks. No offence to any of these guys, but the belts you get presented with really don't mean much. It's basically your buddy giving you a belt. I've seen people come over and promote a guy to 6th Dan who he's never even met before let alone trained with. In my opinion you should have to test for every belt. Step up get on the floor and show your skills. If you're physically not able to or just don't want to then you don't get promoted simple. To many people especially in kenpo are getting promoted because they run a class 2 days a week or they ran a kids karate competition but their skills are awful. They can't remember techniques or even perform their forms and sets and yet they're wearing 8th 9th 10th degrees. It's an ego trip plain and simple. If these guys want that belt then step up and test for it. I will personally never accept a rank I haven't tested for. I have no interest in being given anything. Everything I've done I've worked hard for. I've seen people get higher than me without putting the work in. Doesn't bother me because I only want what I deserve. I don't care if I'm 90 years old if I want to be promoted I'll get out there and I'll do my Damm best and not expect it to be handed to me.
I'm sure this post will upset some people but it's my opinion and I stand by it. I have no issue with people getting higher Dan grades but they should step up and do a test for it. Otherwise really it's just a participation trophy
They perform the entire syllabus, every form every technique every set and yes absolutely they fightJust curious, what do you think would be an appropriate test for a 10th dan/degree/whatever? What would it look like? Would they actually fight anyone?
Ah the good old participation award ranks. No offence to any of these guys, but the belts you get presented with really don't mean much. It's basically your buddy giving you a belt. I've seen people come over and promote a guy to 6th Dan who he's never even met before let alone trained with. In my opinion you should have to test for every belt. Step up get on the floor and show your skills. If you're physically not able to or just don't want to then you don't get promoted simple. To many people especially in kenpo are getting promoted because they run a class 2 days a week or they ran a kids karate competition but their skills are awful. They can't remember techniques or even perform their forms and sets and yet they're wearing 8th 9th 10th degrees. It's an ego trip plain and simple. If these guys want that belt then step up and test for it. I will personally never accept a rank I haven't tested for. I have no interest in being given anything. Everything I've done I've worked hard for. I've seen people get higher than me without putting the work in. Doesn't bother me because I only want what I deserve. I don't care if I'm 90 years old if I want to be promoted I'll get out there and I'll do my Damm best and not expect it to be handed to me.
Long rant but honestly to me it's these kind of things that are soiling traditional martial arts. Not saying all 10th degree don't deserve it obviously some do. But sadly there's to many who simply don't. There's more 10th degrees now in kenpo than there ever when Parker was alive. Hous highest Dan was a 7th. After he died 10ths started popping up everywhere.
I'm sure this post will upset some people but it's my opinion and I stand by it. I have no issue with people getting higher Dan grades but they should step up and do a test for it. Otherwise really it's just a participation trophy
Either way in my eyes any dan rank should be done with a test I don’t care how old and fat they are they should have to get on the floor and show what they can do and they should have to spar as well. I know the old men like to make excuses about why they don’t fight or they don’t mix it up but to me that’s nonsense and just an excuse plain and simple. Just because you are old doesn’t mean you can’t mix it up and stay in shapeSo I have to point out here that TWO of his original Martial Arts Teachers where present and signed off on the promotion. Mr. Hebler has been coming up for years now and participating in events that we have done and seeing the caliber of Martial skill being passed as well as executed. Sadly you are basing your opinion of people that truly do SUCK, and don't practice or teach on a regular basis and therefore do not remember their material nor can they perform or execute it in the air or on a body. I have seen a great many of these kinds of things too, but I know of NO ONE that has been promoted by their original teacher to this rank outside of the IKCA.
Either way in my eyes any dan rank should be done with a test I don’t care how old and fat they are they should have to get on the floor and show what they can do and they should have to spar as well. I know the old men like to make excuses about why they don’t fight or they don’t mix it up but to me that’s nonsense and just an excuse plain and simple. Just because you are old doesn’t mean you can’t mix it up and stay in shape